On the other hand if odlparent and yangtools were in SR like before, it would make sense for them to use a developer branch that would be merged in a controlled way to produce minimal impact in downstream. In fact if these projects were still in SR: 1) their patches or branches could be easier verified in the downstream using existing tools, 2) there would be no need for other projects to wait for next available release to get bug fixes, and 3) there would be no need for other projects to bump versions during the release cycle (this has become painful even for small bumps). So today I do not see much gain in separating these projects but it could be that we are in a transition phase and things will get better in 1 or 2 releases from now.
BR/Luis > On Jan 16, 2018, at 7:32 PM, Luis Gomez <ece...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On Jan 16, 2018, at 4:35 PM, Faseela K <faseel...@ericsson.com >> <mailto:faseel...@ericsson.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> If there was an option to do such major impact changes on a different >> branch, and then get it merged to main branch when things are stable >> enough.(given that such a version bump-up is happening almost at the same >> time as we are going to do a branch cut), would have been far better. > > I am not sure how a development branch would have helped here. In general to > catch issues related to upstream bump before projects perform the bump we can: > > - Prepare patches for everybody and use recheck with patch dependency: this > worked pretty well for me and helped identifying some issues. Problem is > someone has to prepare the patches and this method does not generate a > distribution to test. > - Prepare patches for everybody and use multi-patch job: It is similar to the > above but builds in a different way, because of that it cannot be used for a > major bump change as it is today but this is fixable and this job does > actually generate a distribution and trigger CSIT if required. > - Have an automatic upstream bump job > (https://jira.opendaylight.org/projects/RELENG/issues/RELENG-69 > <https://jira.opendaylight.org/projects/RELENG/issues/RELENG-69>): This is > not there yet but I believe it is very feasible once we have an streamlined > distribution with stable autorelease build. > > Now I have to say that nothing of the above really works if all projects > involved in the change are not actively looking at the issues exposed by the > above methods, fixing them and reporting them to upstream when they cannot. I > think this last is what is really failing today and explains why upstream and > ultimately TSC decided to break everybody for a while rather than going > through the painful (and slow) process of asking one by one all projects to > check the bump change. > > BR/Luis > > >> But would like to tell that some of the issues we had with the previous >> versions seem to go off once we got a stable genius distribution(eg : ssh >> related problems as sshd got upgraded). >> Thanks, >> Faseela >> >> From: release-boun...@lists.opendaylight.org >> <mailto:release-boun...@lists.opendaylight.org> >> [mailto:release-boun...@lists.opendaylight.org >> <mailto:release-boun...@lists.opendaylight.org>] On Behalf Of Luis Gomez >> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 5:58 AM >> To: Jamo Luhrsen <jluhr...@gmail.com <mailto:jluhr...@gmail.com>> >> Cc: Stephen Kitt <sk...@redhat.com <mailto:sk...@redhat.com>>; OpenDaylight >> Discuss <discuss@lists.opendaylight.org >> <mailto:discuss@lists.opendaylight.org>>; Release >> (rele...@lists.opendaylight.org <mailto:rele...@lists.opendaylight.org>) >> <rele...@lists.opendaylight.org <mailto:rele...@lists.opendaylight.org>>; >> tsc <t...@lists.opendaylight.org <mailto:t...@lists.opendaylight.org>> >> Subject: Re: [release] [OpenDaylight TSC] odlparent 3 / yangtools 2 migration >> >> FYI I am trying this patch in sandbox for the issue you observed in CSIT: >> >> https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/67224/ >> <https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/67224/> >> >> BR/Luis >> >> >> On Jan 16, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Jamo Luhrsen <jluhr...@gmail.com >> <mailto:jluhr...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> good idea Sam. I'll try that. >> >> btw, you could do a curl on restconf/modules and get a 200 right? >> >> JamO >> >> On 01/16/2018 01:55 PM, Sam Hague wrote: >> >> I loaded that distro locally and did feature:install odl-netvirt-openstack. >> That worked fine. Maybe we can use the patch you >> added recently to not use the bootfeatures? >> >> On Jan 16, 2018 4:02 PM, "Jamo Luhrsen" <jluhr...@gmail.com >> <mailto:jluhr...@gmail.com><mailto:jluhr...@gmail.com >> <mailto:jluhr...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >> >> Thanks Luis, >> >> that fixed it, and I ran new jobs already. ODL did not come "UP", so we >> have something to fix still. >> >> I'll be debugging, but something weird ended up in the features cfg file. >> there is an UUID in the featuresBoot and featuresRepositories lines >> >> >> https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/user/jluhrsen/my-views/view/netvirt%20csit/job/netvirt-csit-1node-openstack-ocata-gate-stateful-oxygen/638/ >> >> <https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/user/jluhrsen/my-views/view/netvirt%20csit/job/netvirt-csit-1node-openstack-ocata-gate-stateful-oxygen/638/> >> >> <https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/user/jluhrsen/my-views/view/netvirt%20csit/job/netvirt-csit-1node-openstack-ocata-gate-stateful-oxygen/638/ >> >> <https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/user/jluhrsen/my-views/view/netvirt%20csit/job/netvirt-csit-1node-openstack-ocata-gate-stateful-oxygen/638/>> >> >> JamO >> >> >> >> On 01/16/2018 12:38 PM, Luis Gomez wrote: >> >> I mean the format of the URL so that script can take it :) >> >> Just add 2 folders (/karaf/0.8.0-SNAPSHOT) in you HTTP server and it should >> work, for example: >> >> http://www.luhrsenlounge.net/odl/karaf/0.8.0-SNAPSHOT/karaf-0.8.0-SNAPSHOT.zip >> >> <http://www.luhrsenlounge.net/odl/karaf/0.8.0-SNAPSHOT/karaf-0.8.0-SNAPSHOT.zip> >> >> <http://www.luhrsenlounge.net/odl/karaf/0.8.0-SNAPSHOT/karaf-0.8.0-SNAPSHOT.zip >> >> <http://www.luhrsenlounge.net/odl/karaf/0.8.0-SNAPSHOT/karaf-0.8.0-SNAPSHOT.zip>> >> >> >> >> On Jan 16, 2018, at 12:35 PM, Jamo Luhrsen <jluhr...@gmail.com >> <mailto:jluhr...@gmail.com> <mailto:jluhr...@gmail.com >> <mailto:jluhr...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 01/16/2018 12:27 PM, Luis Gomez wrote: >> >> I think you have to use something like this in the >> BUNDLE_URL: >> http://www.luhrsenlounge.net/odl/*karaf/0.8.0-SNAPSHOT*/karaf-0.8.0-SNAPSHOT.zip >> >> <http://www.luhrsenlounge.net/odl/*karaf/0.8.0-SNAPSHOT*/karaf-0.8.0-SNAPSHOT.zip> >> >> <http://www.luhrsenlounge.net/odl/*karaf/0.8.0-SNAPSHOT*/karaf-0.8.0-SNAPSHOT.zip >> >> <http://www.luhrsenlounge.net/odl/*karaf/0.8.0-SNAPSHOT*/karaf-0.8.0-SNAPSHOT.zip>> >> >> >> hmmm... the BUNDLE_URL is right, but our deployment script is having trouble >> using >> it. I'm looking. >> >> >> On Jan 16, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Jamo Luhrsen <jluhr...@gmail.com >> <mailto:jluhr...@gmail.com><mailto:jluhr...@gmail.com >> <mailto:jluhr...@gmail.com>> >> <mailto:jluhr...@gmail.com <mailto:jluhr...@gmail.com> >> <mailto:jluhr...@gmail.com <mailto:jluhr...@gmail.com>>>> wrote: >> >> >> Sam built a local distro with the remaining unmerged patches >> and I am trying some netvirt CSIT with that: >> >> >> >> https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/user/jluhrsen/my-views/view/netvirt%20csit/job/netvirt-csit-1node-openstack-ocata-gate-stateful-oxygen/637 >> >> <https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/user/jluhrsen/my-views/view/netvirt%20csit/job/netvirt-csit-1node-openstack-ocata-gate-stateful-oxygen/637> >> >> <https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/user/jluhrsen/my-views/view/netvirt%20csit/job/netvirt-csit-1node-openstack-ocata-gate-stateful-oxygen/637 >> >> <https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/user/jluhrsen/my-views/view/netvirt%20csit/job/netvirt-csit-1node-openstack-ocata-gate-stateful-oxygen/637>> >> >> >> >> >> https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/user/jluhrsen/my-views/view/netvirt%20csit/job/netvirt-csit-1node-openstack-ocata-gate-stateful-snat-conntrack-oxygen/38 >> >> <https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/user/jluhrsen/my-views/view/netvirt%20csit/job/netvirt-csit-1node-openstack-ocata-gate-stateful-snat-conntrack-oxygen/38> >> >> <https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/user/jluhrsen/my-views/view/netvirt%20csit/job/netvirt-csit-1node-openstack-ocata-gate-stateful-snat-conntrack-oxygen/38 >> >> <https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/user/jluhrsen/my-views/view/netvirt%20csit/job/netvirt-csit-1node-openstack-ocata-gate-stateful-snat-conntrack-oxygen/38>> >> >> >> >> JamO >> >> >> >> On 01/16/2018 11:07 AM, Michael Vorburger wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 7:29 PM, Brady Johnson <bjohn...@inocybe.ca >> <mailto:bjohn...@inocybe.ca><mailto:bjohn...@inocybe.ca >> <mailto:bjohn...@inocybe.ca>> >> <mailto:bjohn...@inocybe.ca <mailto:bjohn...@inocybe.ca> >> <mailto:bjohn...@inocybe.ca <mailto:bjohn...@inocybe.ca>>>> wrote: >> >> >> We have indeed made good progress and it looks like we're close. Should >> we at least give it until the end of the >> day today? >> >> >> Related to this, since the merges started I havent been able to build >> SFC since Friday when I sent this email >> [0] and I >> >> still cant today. So this is something we need to resolve soon to avoid >> schedule slips. >> >> [0] >> https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2018-January/013337.html >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2018-January/013337.html> >> >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2018-January/013337.html >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2018-January/013337.html>> >> >> >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2018-January/013337.html >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2018-January/013337.html> >> >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2018-January/013337.html >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2018-January/013337.html>>> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> *Brady Johnson* >> bjohn...@inocybe.ca >> <mailto:bjohn...@inocybe.ca><mailto:bjohn...@inocybe.ca >> <mailto:bjohn...@inocybe.ca>> <mailto:bjohn...@inocybe.ca >> <mailto:bjohn...@inocybe.ca><mailto:bjohn...@inocybe.ca >> <mailto:bjohn...@inocybe.ca>>> >> >> <https://twitter.com/inocybetech >> <https://twitter.com/inocybetech><https://twitter.com/inocybetech >> <https://twitter.com/inocybetech>>><http://www.inocybe.com/ >> <http://www.inocybe.com/> >> <http://www.inocybe.com/ >> <http://www.inocybe.com/>>><https://www.linkedin.com/company/2661537?trk=tyah&trkInfo=clickedVertical%3Acompany%2CclickedEntityId%3A2661537%2Cidx%3A1-1-1%2CtarId%3A1441300264767%2Ctas%3Ainocybe >> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/2661537?trk=tyah&trkInfo=clickedVertical%3Acompany%2CclickedEntityId%3A2661537%2Cidx%3A1-1-1%2CtarId%3A1441300264767%2Ctas%3Ainocybe> >> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/2661537?trk=tyah&trkInfo=clickedVertical%3Acompany%2CclickedEntityId%3A2661537%2Cidx%3A1-1-1%2CtarId%3A1441300264767%2Ctas%3Ainocybe >> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/2661537?trk=tyah&trkInfo=clickedVertical%3Acompany%2CclickedEntityId%3A2661537%2Cidx%3A1-1-1%2CtarId%3A1441300264767%2Ctas%3Ainocybe>>>Screenshot >> >> 2017-02-14 at 10.43.55 AM.png >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9uUWABdPR0Je9Du_15FCkw >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9uUWABdPR0Je9Du_15FCkw> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9uUWABdPR0Je9Du_15FCkw >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9uUWABdPR0Je9Du_15FCkw>>> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:31 AM, Stephen Kitt <sk...@redhat.com >> <mailto:sk...@redhat.com><mailto:sk...@redhat.com <mailto:sk...@redhat.com>> >> <mailto:sk...@redhat.com <mailto:sk...@redhat.com> >> <mailto:sk...@redhat.com <mailto:sk...@redhat.com>>>> wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> In last week’s TSC call we agreed to move forward with merging the >> odlparent 3 / yangtools 2 migration patches, with a timebox — we were >> supposed to be able to run NetVirt CSIT yesterday. Obviously that >> deadline has gone whizzing past and we’re still some way away from >> running NetVirt CSIT; I’m not sure how far away... Strictly speaking, >> all the NetVirt dependencies now pass verify (thanks to lots of work >> by >> Tom, Robert and Michael on Neutron in particular), so we could give >> it >> a shot once the patches are merged, but I also knows that OVSDB fails >> its IT so I expect NetVirt CSIT won’t pass. >> >> So the question now is what do we do. Following the agreed plan, we >> should start reverting the patches (hopefully without messing up the >> follow-up fixes). We could formulate alternative plans, but I’m not >> sure what the community feels about that! >> >> Anyway, I’m not trying to suggest a concrete solution with this >> email, >> I want to start the discussion. >> >> >> my personal view is that the sane thing to do would be to revert and finish >> this up on a branch in parallel, to unblock >> folks, because the timeline proposed in >> https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2018-January/013336.html >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2018-January/013336.html> >> >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2018-January/013336.html >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2018-January/013336.html>> >> was missed, >> >> and IMHO it's likely at least several more days until things fully >> stabilize. Through all the various 3rd party >> upgrades and >> >> yangtools changes etc. that went into this big bump, as of right there still >> has never been a full netvirt CSIT >> successfully >> >> run proving non-regression, yet; that's going to happen in the coming days. >> >> But I believe this view is not widely shared... ;-) Part of the reasons for >> that seem to include issues such as >> that the >> >> multipatch job apparently doesn't work, so it is hard to test change accross >> projects easily. I'm not sure that >> "let's just >> >> merge and figure it out as we go along" is the best answer to that problem.. >> but if others don't have a problem >> with the >> >> "broken world" for a number of days, then so be it! >> >> >> Regards, >> >> -- >> Stephen Kitt >> Principal Software Engineer, Office of the CTO >> Red Hat >> >> _______________________________________________ >> release mailing list >> rele...@lists.opendaylight.org >> <mailto:rele...@lists.opendaylight.org><mailto:rele...@lists.opendaylight.org >> <mailto:rele...@lists.opendaylight.org>> >> <mailto:rele...@lists.opendaylight.org >> <mailto:rele...@lists.opendaylight.org> >> <mailto:rele...@lists.opendaylight.org >> <mailto:rele...@lists.opendaylight.org>>> >> >> https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/release >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/release> >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/release >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/release>> >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/release >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/release> >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/release >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/release>>> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TSC mailing list >> t...@lists.opendaylight.org >> <mailto:t...@lists.opendaylight.org><mailto:t...@lists.opendaylight.org >> <mailto:t...@lists.opendaylight.org>> <mailto:t...@lists.opendaylight.org >> <mailto:t...@lists.opendaylight.org> >> <mailto:t...@lists.opendaylight.org <mailto:t...@lists.opendaylight.org>>> >> >> https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc><https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc>> >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc><https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> release mailing list >> rele...@lists.opendaylight.org >> <mailto:rele...@lists.opendaylight.org><mailto:rele...@lists.opendaylight.org >> <mailto:rele...@lists.opendaylight.org>> >> https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/release >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/release><https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/release >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/release>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TSC mailing list >> t...@lists.opendaylight.org >> <mailto:t...@lists.opendaylight.org><mailto:t...@lists.opendaylight.org >> <mailto:t...@lists.opendaylight.org>> >> https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc><https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TSC mailing list >> t...@lists.opendaylight.org <mailto:t...@lists.opendaylight.org> >> <mailto:t...@lists.opendaylight.org <mailto:t...@lists.opendaylight.org>> >> https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc><https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc>> >> >
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