Tamas, I agree with you, Daniel and Jurgen that we would be focused on windows though I am optimistic that OSGeo4W could also be a source for those trying to make custom windows installers (ie. Portable GIS, what I used to do with FWTools and possibly even Jeff with MS4W).
Once we have a PSC, we need to discuss direction and then nail a plan down and agree to it. Best regards, Frank On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Tamas Szekeres <szeker...@gmail.com> wrote: > Frank, > > The RFC <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/wiki/rfc1_pmc> looks pretty good, > thanks for putting that together. Once the PSC is formed, I'm keen on > writing a second one where we could start thinking about the primary > objectives and requirements of the system we should realize, I think we all > have quite some ideas, and experiences in creating windows builds (both > positive and negative) which makes it possible to find out the right > direction to follow. > > I also think packaging on Windows is a different thing, other platforms > may apply for a separate governance regarding to the binary distributions, > there might be some common aspects, though. > > Best regards, > > Tamas > > > > 2013/9/25 Frank Warmerdam <warmer...@pobox.com> > >> Folks, >> >> I have initiated an RFC for a project management committee for >> OSGeo4W. I'd encourage everyone interested in participating to joint >> the osgeo4w-dev mailing list and to continue detailed discussion >> there. >> >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev >> >> I think this list (osgeo-discuss) is a great place to discuss linkages >> between different packaging efforts. >> >> Best regards, >> Frank >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Jo Cook <joc...@astuntechnology.com> >> wrote: >> > The newest version of Portable GIS doesn't require quite so many admin >> > privileges, but I've also slimmed it down dramatically so it fits on a >> > smaller USB stick, so it contains a lot less software (no gvsig, no >> mysql >> > etc). It is used extensively for training courses in the UK, without too >> > many problems, and the new version should be better again as I have a >> > windows 8 VM to test on at last. >> > >> > I'd like to bring Portable GIS in line with OSGeo4W and OSGeo Live- I've >> > spoken to both Alex and Cameron about this in the past- but I have some >> work >> > to do before that's possible- namely around documenting exactly which >> files >> > I change, and also the build process. It's all in a local mercurial >> > repository at the moment, but I'd really like to get it online. To be >> > honest, my big concern is that I don't always have time to focus on >> things >> > outside of my core work (maybe that will change post FOSS4G) and I can't >> > guarantee being able to pitch in at release time, or even respond to >> issues >> > in a timely manner. That's the main reason why I've kept it as a little >> pet >> > project- so I'm not letting anyone else down! >> > >> > Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this discussion! >> > >> > I think it makes sense to come up with an over-arching >> > project/committee/whatever that covers both OSGeo4W and OSGeo-Live, and >> > maybe PortableGIS at some point, rather than separate projects. It's >> always >> > better to share work rather than replicate it. Does anyone have any >> > objections to that idea? Personally, I'd then sketch out the workflows >> for >> > each, and figure out what make-up of committee would be required to >> oversee >> > that and go through incubation. >> > >> > Jo >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Alex Mandel < >> tech_...@wildintellect.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On 09/24/2013 12:50 AM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote: >> >> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Angelos Tzotsos < >> gcpp.kal...@gmail.com> >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Daniel, >> >> >> >> >> >> I am in favor of both OSGeoLive and OSGeo4W going through a few >> weeks >> >> >> incubation process. >> >> >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> >> Angelos >> >> >> >> >> > My own impression is that if we want to reach out to non-geek GIS >> >> > users the ideal way would be a system like portable GIS with the >> great >> >> > documentation of the live dvd, ie run and test the programs without >> >> > needing to be admin or having to install different programs. >> >> >> >> I've researched this problem, talked with Jo (Current author of >> >> PortableGIS http://www.archaeogeek.com/portable-gis.html) >> >> >> >> There is almost no way to make this work without Admin priveleges on a >> >> windows machine. Some individual apps can be made to work by >> extensively >> >> modifying how they look for libs but many require things like a jvm to >> >> run on top of, or a mix of system an local libs (e.g. Visual C++ is >> >> required for many OSGeo4W apps and requires an install, that's actually >> >> about the only part that has to be installed vs just in the OSGeo4w >> >> folder). >> >> >> >> This is actually why I settled on helping create OSGeo Live bootable >> >> products and virtual machines. Of course this isn't perfect either as >> >> figuring out how to boot a disk or usb seems beyond some users, and the >> >> virtual machine still hits needing admin to install virtualization >> >> software. >> >> >> >> I also agree there's no reason many of the documentation efforts can't >> >> be shared. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Alex >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Discuss mailing list >> >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >> >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Jo Cook >> > Astun Technology Ltd, The Coach House, 17 West Street, Epsom, Surrey, >> KT18 >> > 7RL, UK >> > t:+44 7930 524 155 >> > iShare - Data integration and publishing platform >> > >> > ***************************************** >> > >> > Company registration no. 5410695. 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