On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Alex Mandel <tech_...@wildintellect.com> wrote: > The translation tools Drupal 7+ look quite good. On the flipside there's > much discussion of Pootle[1]
I think that udig and geopaparazzi switched to https://www.transifex.com/ for translation. Eli > > I was more thinking of splitting out the core site functions (Classic > CMS with feeds) from some other components that are separate apps in a way. > > Anyways I'm meeting with Dave (my Drupal coworker) next week. If you > have a good list of Apps/Functions/Services from the site that we can go > through in planning and testing a move that would help. > > Thanks, > Alex > > > [1] http://pootle.translatehouse.org/ > > On 09/27/2013 01:52 PM, Ian Edwards wrote: >> agreed - we should keep implementation options open at this stage, I'm >> equally happy with Django and I'll try to help with other options if >> they're chosen. >> >> I'll do some investigations into Drupal 8's multilingual support and see if >> it supports the following requirement: >> "We have to keep in mind that translation is being done by a growing bunch >> of people who have little or no technical background. We need this to be >> bullet proof and we need well defined processes on how to create >> translations and whether or how to translate news / community spotlights, >> etc." [1] >> >> I'll report back on the WebCom list >> >> [1] http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/202 >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Alex Mandel >> <tech_...@wildintellect.com>wrote: >> >>> Ian, >>> >>> That plan is I think the same conclusion I had reached. That some parts >>> of the site simply need to be recoded, and I would open that it does not >>> necessarily have to be drupal if we have experts in other platforms >>> willing to jump in, things like the Service directory can easily be >>> django or other platforms heavily used in the community. >>> >>> Our current goal, is to move the current site as is if possible over to >>> the OSUOSL hosted machines. We hit a snag in PHP being too new for the >>> older drupal and it broke some stuff. www.osgeo2.org I think it is. >>> If we can pull that off it would allow us to retire osgeo1 which is >>> somewhat expensive to run, and would potentially free up funds to put >>> towards re-coding of the site. >>> >>> FYI, if you feel Webcom needs a project management tool, how about a >>> Trac instance? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex >>> >>> >>> On 09/27/2013 03:31 AM, Ian Edwards wrote: >>>> Thanks Alex, Frank. I'm happy to leave the project management tools >>>> (basecamp) alone and lean more on SAC. I'm also keen to make extensive >>> use >>>> of the wiki pages and to fill in missing documentation as we go. >>>> >>>> Looking through our custom Drupal modules I believe that we're unlikely >>> to >>>> find an upgrade path that will work - I suspect we're looking at a >>> detailed >>>> investigation of the functionality of the current site, followed by a >>>> rebuild in Drupal 8 and automating the migration of content across. We >>> can >>>> have several attempts at this in a development environment before >>>> performing live migration tests and then making the decision to move >>> across >>>> to the new site when all of the requirements have been met. Alex - I'm >>>> very interested in hearing the thoughts of your Drupal colleague. If he >>>> agrees with this route then I think we should get started and we can use >>>> WebCom to report regular progress on the specifics. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Alex Mandel < >>> tech_...@wildintellect.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 09/26/2013 02:10 PM, Frank Warmerdam wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Alex Mandel < >>> tech_...@wildintellect.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 09/26/2013 05:26 AM, Ian Edwards wrote: >>>>>>>> To make more concrete progress on the larger issues facing WebCom I'd >>>>>>> like >>>>>>>> to start some closed discussions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you have experience with the admin of any of the OSGeo >>>>> infrastructure >>>>>>>> then please join us. We'll report back progress on the open WebCom >>>>>>> mailing >>>>>>>> list. Sensitive information about the systems will be thoroughly >>>>>>> documented >>>>>>>> and tested and will become a closed resource for the team moving >>>>>>> forwards. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please reply off list and I'll add you to the discussion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ian >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Webcom to my knowledge has been inactive for several years, are you >>> the >>>>>>> new Chair? The infrastructure you refer to has all been handled by >>>>>>> members of the System Administration committee. Everything except >>>>>>> security information (passwords) is publicly on the OSGeo Wiki if >>>>>>> someone has taken the time to write it up. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Alex, >>>>>> >>>>>> Webcom still notionally exists even if it is somewhat moribund. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ian has agreed to assist with the migration of Drupal, aspects of which >>>>>> touch on SAC. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Excellent, I think it might be best to discuss how to get it done on the >>>>> SAC list as Martin and I are the most familiar with the situation and >>>>> have roughly attempted to do this task before getting distracted by >>>>> other things (we can probably find old message thread for background). >>>>> Once it's migrated I'm happy to let Webcom figure out what they want to >>>>> change on a running site. >>>>> >>>>>> I don't think it would be all that helpful for Ian to struggle with >>>>> whether >>>>>> there ought to be a webcom, or if it is a SAC issue or a marketting >>>>>> committee issue. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Agreed, revamp of the drupal site just needs to happen. >>>>> >>>>>> It is hopefully just about migrating Drupal and possibly doing some >>>>> updates >>>>>> to the web site - particularly as needed to make things work with a >>> newer >>>>>> drupal. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Right, I actually have someone who looked at it briefly (A drupal expert >>>>> I work with), the trouble was we didn't have all the non-standard Drupal >>>>> add-ons documented, so its hard to figure out how to keep them working >>>>> right. If we feed him the right info, I can bug him to get it done or >>>>> give us a quote if it'll cost some hours. >>>>> >>>>>> That said, I'm non-plussed by this idea of "closed" discussions and use >>>>> of >>>>>> some thing called basecamp. Ian - why are closed discussions valuable >>>>>> other than the need to be protective of a few passwords? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I agree, no need for basecamp (I do know what it is). We have a wiki and >>>>> should use it. >>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Frank >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Alex >>>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss