Hi Angelos,
May i suggest that you goahead and explore the option 1 that you suggested. As
you are knowledgeable and have the expertise on this, please lead this and
contact SAC to explore ideas/options to move these ideas forward.
Thank you again for coming forward and volunteering your time and efforts for
this. I believe this will be a big benefit for our education efforts and also
the wider community in the future. Esp .for universities and education globally
, there is definitely help in easily organising the practical/tutorial
sessions . This will also help in our aim to get more universities start
teaching using OSGeo software. Also it will be useful for those running OSGeo
workshops/training at events (not just FOSS4G events) etc can make use of this
service.
Best wishes,
Suchith
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Suchith Anand [suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 2:41 PM
To: OSGeo Discussions; live-demo; ica-osgeo-l...@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that runs
the OSGeo-Live VM
Thanks Cameron, Angelos, Giuseppe , Peter and everyone who contributed to these
discussions. I am ccing this to discuss list so that the wider community and
users who want a cloud service can let their views known and how they would
use and benefit from an OSGeo-Live cloud service.
That way, we will get better idea if there is need/demand and a sustaining
community who will step up to keep the project maintained with each OSGeo-Live
release.
All - please look though the ideas/inputs below that Cameron summarised for
OSGeo-Live sustainable cloud service based discussions we had so far in
education and live lists. If you are able to contribute to this , please let us
all know. Thanks.
Suchith
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Angelos Tzotsos [gcpp.kal...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:01 PM
To: live-demo; ica-osgeo-l...@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that runs
the OSGeo-Live VM
I realize that my previous e-mail was not received by the list so I summarize:
1. OSGeo-Live is already cloud-ready on Synnefo stack
http://www.synnefo.org/
So basically we could deploy synnefo + geneti on OSGeo infrastructure and have
a Free Software solution.
Alternatively we could deploy an OpenStack instance.
https://www.openstack.org/software/
We should ask SAC if the above options are feasible.
2. In case we want to deploy OSGeo-Live on AWS, it seems straightforward:
http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/VMImportPrerequisites.html
https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/vm-import/
Any other options in mind?
Best,
Angelos
On 10/18/2015 01:32 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
Bringing a few different email threads back to one, and answering Suchith's "next
steps" question:
On 16/10/2015 12:43 am, Suchith Anand wrote:
Cameron - from your experiences with OSGeo live community, what do you think is
the best way now forward ? Can you please summarise all discussions so far and
reply to the public lists.Thanks.
Suchith
If we are to be successful at setting up an OSGeo-Live sustainable cloud
service, I suggest we consider:
1. Would a cloud service be used? By who?
I'd suggest that people who want a cloud service speak up, say how you would
use an OSGeo-Live cloud service. We are looking here to determine if there is a
sustaining community who will step up to keep the project maintained with each
OSGeo-Live release.
2. What are the steps technically required to set up the cloud service?
Hopefully someone will step up to do the research on what is required, and will
set up a Proof-of-Concept.
3. What will hosting a cloud service cost? Would it be a pay-as-you-use model?
Would we be asking the OSGeo Foundation to sponsor? Would we be asking workshop
providers to pay for the service?
I suspect that we could ask the OSGeo Foundation for base funding to prove a
Proof of Concept (by paying for a cloud service for 1 year or so), but ask
workshop providers and other users to pay for the service in moving forward.
This is something that can be decided once costs are understood.
4. But the bottom line is that the best chance of success will occur if someone
stands up and champions its development. Do we have someone interested to do
the hard work of making it happen? (Speak up if interested). It certainly would
be a valuable contribution to the OSGeo community.
Warm regards, Cameron
On 14/10/2015 7:59 pm, Peter Baumann wrote:
1.Do you think it is important to have a cloud service that runs the
OSGeo-Live VM
not necessarily a cloud, as the whole OSGeo Live is not prepared.
But definitely hosting it on a VM (for easy cloning + move) is an asset - any
demo just needs to show a URL then.
2.What are the steps that we need to take to make this possible
find a caretaker with a machine.
Jacobs University can do that, for example, in tight collaboration with Angelos
on technical level.
-Peter
On 15/10/2015 2:53 am, Giuseppe Amatulli wrote:
Hi,
under the http://www.spatial-ecology.net/ initiative we use the the
OSGeo-Llive for courses and intensive training in Geo Computation.
In this line we have been used also Amazon Web Service to teach remote
connection and scripting routines in the cloud. For this I was customize a
Ubuntu Instance very similar to the OSGeo-Llive.
Nonetheless, would be grate to have the OSGeo-Llive directly hosted in AWS to
allow teach but also to provide to the course participants something that they
can use after the course.
The AWS Educate
<https://aws.amazon.com/education/awseducate/><https://aws.amazon.com/education/awseducate/>
provide grants for education so maybe an official cooperation OSGeo&AWS can be a solution
to host for free a OSGeo-Llive Instance
Best Regards
Giuseppe
On 10/13/2015 05:57 PM, Suchith Anand wrote:
Hi all,
Myself, Maria and Peter are now at ESA event and had a chance to catch up on
ideas for future to expand education globally.
I also remembered that few months back, we had an initial discussion on the
importance of having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM to help
running workshops at conferences, training events etc. Venka made this idea in
one of the Geo4All AB discussions on workshops at FOSS4G Bonn that i copy below
"Instead of buying 80-100 computers, it could be a worth considering to pay for a
cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM. Maybe one of our sponsoring companies could be
approached to deploy such OSGeo Software as a Service solution.Such service could be made
available to any event/institution wishing to run their own workshops anywhere place on
earth with a good internet connection and thin client. For subsequent events or users
could be charged to cover cost of cloud hosting and paying for some developers to
maintain the system.If the experiment is successful, we can think of replicating it in
our globally through our local chapters."
Me, Maria and Peter in our discussions today, thought it is good time to start
doing something about this and have this for scaling up our education and
training needs globally. So it will be good to get ideas from key people, so i
request you all to give your thoughts/ideas.
1.Do you think it is important to have a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live
VM.
2.What are the steps that we need to take to make this possible
Looking forward to your inputs.
Suchith
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