Picking up on the thread of Steven's list of items/solutions to look into 
(please, provide items 7, 8 etc if other perspectives could reap solutions).
........and hopefully providing people additional arguments to convince 
partners, spouses, parents, bosses and bank managers that coming to Bonn this 
year is 'cheap' ;-)))))
...see brainstorm per item below:

1. Can we unbundle some elements of the conference to help those on low income? 
Gala event, catering, anything else?

MV; this will certainly help to save and should be done to some degree. Whether 
it significantly weighs up to costs for travel, lodging etc.... I don't know. 
For the LOC this would mean higher administrative overhead; the more 
differentiation in attendance, the more planning&administration is needed. 
Professional conf organisers will certainly charge extra and volunteers for 
this type of work are very scarce. Still, some price and attendance 
differentiation (above presently in place) may reap extra attendants (but 
baseline to be established). 

2. Should we encourage lower cost venue options from host cities bidding for 
2018 etc

MV; Venue cost for 800+ attendees tends to be directly related to size and 
importance of the city and country. 

More sophisticated and developed host countries tend to have already a certain 
amount of FOSS(GIS) users as critical mass and some sort of local chapter to 
form the necessary LOC.
(We are not GeoSpatialWorld Forum that flies in a LOC from India and is heavily 
sponsored)

This may be a rule of thumb, but hopefully future LOC's with their more 
intimate knowledge of the local situation prove me wrong. 

3. Should we focus more on costs of travel and accommodation when selecting 
host cities?

MV; although hotel prices are directly correlated to the popularity of their 
cities, larger cities offer a wider bandwidth of lodging prices and higher 
amount of available beds in a certain price range. And renting an appartement 
with a group is often the cheapest option, but not that often done... Large 
popular cities (with a plethora of AirBnB, FamilyBnB, GayBnB, GeekBnB, 
HipsterBnB etc etc) do have a considerable edge here ;-)

Lower popularity means smaller size of the city, thus more likely it is that no 
or just indirect flights go there (extra flight/travel costs) or only one or 
two airlines travel there (with illegal higher price agreement:-( 

4. Can we come up with an OSGeo policy on subsidising people who want to 
attend? How would we select? A full subsidy for someone attending FOSS4G 
including travel, accommodation, delegate fees, workshops, and living expenses 
could easily run between €1500 and €2500 depending on the location and an 
individual’s travel costs. That means finding between €60k and €100k to fund 5% 
of the attendees at a FOSS4G. Is that achievable?

MV; in Western Hemisphere political/economical/societal/other outreach 
organisations (we are tech-variety) usually reimburse travel costs upon arrival 
against receipt with a predetermined maximum, for attendees who come from Third 
World countries or can show a valid student pass or whatever sympathy-policy is 
in place. Accommodation is usually arranged via couch-surfing with 
organisers/other visitors or free(gratis) rooms arranged as part of local 
hotel-deals/block-bookings.

So first we (Board, officers, the cook/wife/lover - thanks Peter Greenaway - 
and/or whoever has a say) would have to determine what OSGeo sees as its 
strategy regarding Outreach: where do we see people disadvantaged.... (may I 
once more kindly refer to the concept Marketing Plan in the wiki 
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:Marketing_Committee for all to comment on and 
add to ;-))))

By the way; Fraud is to be expected but cannot really be countered only 
diminished. So should not stop us pursuing this option. 

5. Is it better to leave the successful global event as it is, up till now we 
have had strong attendances each year? We could instead encourage FOSS4G 
regional events (in regions that are not hosting the global event) that were 
designed and targeted to be a smaller scale and more affordable?

MV; +1 eg comparable to LocationTech Tour: single format, reusable items, 
continuity of officers etc and in collaboration with local/ regional (Hi, 
OSGeo.eu ;-) chapters.

6. Are we looking at the wrong side of this by focussing on the cost of 
attending an event? 

MV;
Let's think more in quantifiable benefit terms. And turn it into a (reusable 
format for the wiki) business case: cost versus financial benefit. If 
attendants from companies join code sprints this should count as 
billable/development/product development/engineering hours, that needed to be 
spend in office-time anyway. Combined with the personal training budget that 
employees usually have a right to, this adds up to at least the amount of the 
conference attendance (incl all costs).
I have done this calculation for the Bolzano code sprints in the past and it 
works out!

Additionally, for independent professionals a similar calculation method could 
apply, but I would have to think more on that.

My two non-reimbursable well-spent cents.

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 13 mei 2016 om 15:13 heeft Steven Feldman <shfeld...@gmail.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> 
> 1. Can we unbundle some elements of the conference to help those on low 
> income? Gala event, catering, anything else?
> 2. Should we encourage lower cost venue options from host cities bidding for 
> 2018 etc
> 3. Should we focus more on costs of travel and accommodation when selecting 
> host cities?
> 4. Can we come up with an OSGeo policy on subsidising people who want to 
> attend? How would we select? A full subsidy for someone attending FOSS4G 
> including travel, accommodation, delegate fees, workshops, and living 
> expenses could easily run between €1500 and €2500 depending on the location 
> and an individual’s travel costs. That means finding between €60k and €100k 
> to fund 5% of the attendees at a FOSS4G. Is that achievable?
> 5. Is it better to leave the successful global event as it is, up till now we 
> have had strong attendances each year? We could instead encourage FOSS4G 
> regional events (in regions that are not hosting the global event) that were 
> designed and targeted to be a smaller scale and more affordable?
> 6. Are we looking at the wrong side of this by focussing on the cost of 
> attending an event? 
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