Massimiliano - I have no doubt you are sending the emails for the right reason - BUT - to do this only 40 days out and call for a vote from the OSGEO board is disheartening. It is for me - This should have been a discussion for post-Boston - Not now. At least do it off channel with Michael and Guido before calling for a vote. For me to see this discussion start this close to the conference made me sigh - this is my first FOSS4G international conference and I am beyond excited and want all to be. Your original email cast a cloud (though not intentional) over the work that Boston has done.

It is not unheard of for a organization that owns the conference to be a sponsor (at least here in the US). The longest running conference I attend - Georgia URISA - does this every year. Not only do we fund it - we also pay for a booth because of paperwork. It's is important for Advertising purposes. It is important for us to interface to the attendees. It is important for us to share our story.

I wished the OSGEO presence at the North America conference was as strong as what is being shown at Boston. OSGEO has a great story to tell - take every opportunity you can to spread the good word be it as a sponsor, owner, or person with a sign discussing climate change.

I wish all of you a great FOSS4G 2017 conference.

Randy



On 07/03/2017 09:58 AM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
Hi Guido,
I don't understand why you are frustrated and disheartened by this conversation.
We're not discussing on climate changes :-D

To All of you,
(i swear it is my last mail in the tread - maybe -)

My point of view is very simple: OSGeo is not a sponsor of the event, is the "owner" which selected you great team and proposal for organizing the conference. Thus is not correct list OSGeo in the sponsor list. Try to open this link: http://2017.foss4g.org/sponsor/ and honestly tell me if you understand OSGeo is the host, or do you get the impression it is just one of the 20 sponsors?

Since this fact has been part of discussions in the past, I believe it is very important to be underlined and communicated to avoid misunderstanding, also for the future FOSS4G conferences. I believe that details and communication are important (otherwise, for example why spend time and money in marketing and site re-branding?).

And it has nothing to do with the great work you are doing in bringing another wonderful foss4g (big big thanks). These are small (but not negligible) details..

I just requested the board to take a position on this, without entering in details of when, what and why it happened. Then I will be happy whatever is the decision and will go on on doing my contribution and work for OSGeo ;-)


Ciao,
Maxi

2017-07-03 14:29 GMT+02:00 Ian Turton <ijtur...@gmail.com <mailto:ijtur...@gmail.com>>:

    I have to disagree here, to me it is clear that OSGeo is
    presenting ("owns") the conference while by listing the
    contributions the OSGeo provides (seed money etc) formally on the
    Sponsors' page/list it makes it clear just how much money (and
    time) the OSGeo is putting it into the event.

    By formally listing as a sponsor it probably makes it easier to
    handle things like remembering to allocate booth space, passes etc
    as it is already on the spreadsheet when those tasks are carried out.

    Ian

    On 2 July 2017 at 09:22, Massimiliano Cannata
    <massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch
    <mailto:massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch>> wrote:

        Dear community and board members,
        Today I found out that OSGeo is a a SPONSOR of the FOSS4G-2017
        Boston conference.

        This is disappointing me !

        At least for two reasons:

        1- foss4g is the OSGeo's conference, so OSGeo is the host not
        a guest (have you ever seen AGU sponsoring it's annual event?)

        2- OSGeo is already providing seed and risk exposure money so
        it shouldn't need to pay for get exposure or being listed in
        the sponsor page.

        So, as an OSGeo charter member, I formally ask the board to
        remove OSGeo from the sponsor list !

        Regards
        Maxi

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