Jody,

This is a very good point.

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On 9/20/17 1:19 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
On 20 September 2017 at 12:44, Maria Antonia Brovelli <maria.brove...@polimi.it <mailto:maria.brove...@polimi.it>> wrote:

    Jody this is not respectful of me and the community.  Might I know
    why the people working for the project want ABSOLUTELY to keep the
    names and links to proprietary software on our open source
    software website?


I feel a bit of pressure to express myself exactly correctly on this outreach topic; or risk people missing the point ...  The outreach approach was determined months ago when going over our target audience (literally what the website is for). Te website was defined with these visitor journey's in mind...

The primary audience for the website is non-community members:
- ESRI GIS Professional (GISP), IT Professionals, Academic Faculty, Academic Students, Science and Research, Influencers & Decision makers, Software Developers - the communication goal is to promote awareness - asking non-community members to consider and evaluate - the next goal is adoption - assisting non-community members in adopting open source - the final foal is impress - having non-community members be enthusiastic and advocate open source

The secondary audience is community members:
- osgeo members, partners, service providers, sponsors, contributors
- the steps awarness, adoption, impress reflect contributing to open source - many of the community member activities are taking place on the wiki and are happy to remain there.


When talking to the broader GIS community, it's important to keep in mind two things:

- most GIS users are more familiar with ESRI & Google tools

- most of what passes for standards are either defacto (ESRI & Google formats & APIs), or developed by OGC - which is an industry consortium

- lots of folks utilize a combination of tools - some open source, some not (e.g., folks who use MapServer to serve databases maintained on ArcGIS).

Taken together, if the intent of the site is to educate & support GIS users, and promote open source geo tools - then the site really has to address compatibility, and hybrid environments.  Links to commercial equivalents - perhaps with reviews and comparisons - provides a lot of value (e.g., when trying to figure out how to use OpenLayers to view layers that come from a mix of ESRI, Google, and OGC-compliant sources.

Miles Fidelman



--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.  .... Yogi Berra

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