Cameron, I needed time to think on all of these issues being raised. I
never ignored you. I disagree with your public statement that I avoid
hard OSGeo questions. I have always tried to represent the OSGeo
community, and I have stood up for the community when others could or
would not. My problem is that I am sometimes too strong, too
passionate, coming off as not caring, when in fact this is opposite: I
have as much caring for the OSGeo community as anyone else here.
Thank you for voicing all of these public concerns of my career. I
have tried to answer your concerns. I am sure you disagree with me for
most or all of my answers, but I hope you take the time to let my words
sink in like I did to all of your words, as that time was me showing you
the most respect, how I respect your words and how powerful the online
word is today. Please also show me that respect back.
Maybe we can meet in person in 2018. FOSS4G-Australia 2018!!! Let's do
it!!!! :)
Yours,
-jeff
On 2017-10-12 4:32 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
Nicolas, Jeff, OSGeo Community:
I really like and respect Jeff. He has contributed many great things to
OSGeo and touched many of us in positive ways. However, while on the
board I've seen personality clashes where Jeff has sent passionate
emails with what I consider to be an unacceptable level of aggression
and disrespect for a board member, and which I believe has led to
community members leaving or becoming disengaged [3].
Jeff appears to have ignored my question. I'm disappointed but not
surprised. I've seen Jeff to be quick to engage on topics and people he
agrees with; but ignore tough questions; in the extreme resigning from
the board. Maybe I'm being hasty, I see Jeff has just posted his
candidate manifesto as I write this and he may explain his previous
resignations soon.
I've said the following about Jeff after he resigned previously [4]:
/ I see in you someone who has some wonderful characteristics which
you apply to OSGeo://
// You are passionate, enthusiastic, dedicated to task.//
//
// There are a few things that sometimes cause friction://
// You are passionate, enthusiastic, dedicated to task.//
//
// As with all of us, our strengths in one circumstance become a
weakness in another./
I love Jeff, but would hope that he provides some of our other excellent
board candidates with a chance to be on the board, and hope that Jeff
focuses on some of the other roles that he does so well.
Warm regards, Cameron
[3] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-November/033014.html
[4] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-December/008829.html
On 13/10/17 3:32 am, Rob Emanuele wrote:
Hi Toshikazu, Nick,
Despite the fact that I have not been around long enough or have not
been in the right places to see directly a lot of the impact that Jeff
has had on the community, it's very clear from many accounts that he
has been an amazing and important figure in OSGeo (a Sol Katz award
speaks very clearly to this!). However I feel remiss if I don't point
out the following observation: as a newer member to the OSGeo
community in the past couple of years, I've seen some intense and
surprising conflict happen on the mailing lists that were centered
around or included Jeff, which played out in ways that I believe were
not good for community, and were also not healing in their conclusions.
If there is a custom of only speaking positively on someone's
nomination thread, then I apologize. I do not want to detract from
praise that is well deserved. Is there a more appropriate place talk
through, address and hopefully dismiss reservations about a nominee,
and to also call for answers to the questions Cameron has posted?
Thanks,
Rob
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Toshikazu SETO <toss...@gmail.com
<mailto:toss...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I also support the second nomination of Jeff McKenna.
He think important to friendship with all OSGeo communities,
because I am proud of his philosophy.
I think, this thread will use comments on nominations and should
not deep discuss to previous FOSS4G
circumstanceand responsibility.
Best regards,
Toshikazu
On 12/10/17 4:23 pm, nicolas bozon wrote:
Dear Cameron,
I appreciate the time and effort you have put into framing questions
and remarks for Jeff, although that sounds rather unusual in a Board
nomination thread.
As a Charter Member nominating Jeff, I thought that bygones were
bygones when we honored him with the prestigious Sol Katz award at
FOSS4G 2016. The thunderous applause from one and all present at the
Bundeshaus on August 27th 2016 still rings in my ears. And I think
none in our community would have missed the passion that emanated from
Jeff in his short acceptance speech, but also the continued effort he
has silently put in helping the Foundation since then.
Whishing all candidates a great campain and election.
Best regards,
Nick
Le mercredi 11 octobre 2017, Steven Feldman <shfeld...@gmail.com
<mailto:shfeld...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
Jeff
I agree with Cameron, I think the charter members are entitled to
an explanation as to why you resigned from the board twice in the
middle of a period of service.
I, for one, would like to understand the basis on which we can be
assured that if you are elected for a third time the pattern of
resignation will not be repeated
Regards
______
Steven
On 9 Oct 2017, at 21:42, Cameron Shorter
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeff,
I've had a number of people correct me to note that you have
resigned twice from the board. Also from the conference committee
and FOSS4G mentoring role as the global FOSS4G China was facing
very hard decisions based on low registration numbers.
References:
Resignation from board in 2015:
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-December/008820.html
<https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-December/008820.html>
Resignation from board and conference committee in 2012:
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-February/004544.html
<https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-February/004544.html>
Stepping back from mentoring FOSS4G China:
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-January/004514.html
<https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-January/004514.html>
Lessons Learned from FOSS4G China:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2012_Lessons_Learned
<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2012_Lessons_Learned>
On 9/10/17 10:01 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:
Jeff,
While I agree with others that you have been very enthusiastic
toward OSGeo ideals, I'm also believe that there are some
unanswered questions which should be addressed.
In particular, a while back you stepped down from the OSGeo
Board mid-term, while you were in the position of OSGeo
president. I don't think a public explanation was provided, but
I was aware that there was some passionate discussion happening
in public email lists at the time.
If you are considering sitting on the board again, I think an
explanation should be provided.
Regards, Cameron
--
Cameron Shorter
Open Technologies Consultant
Geospatial & Software Architect
Information Demystifier
M +61 (0) 419 142 254
http://shorter.net
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