The PDF is a really “just tell us your idea” rather than “pretend everything is a code sprint” (which was previously the only document with clear instructions on how to apply for funding).
I am really glad to see this idea go ahead, there are several traditional reasons for avoiding open source: GeoForAll meets the “lack of educational materials goal”, a font can help meet the “I have to follow official cartography goal”, advocacy can help meet the “huh?” confusion :) On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 4:12 AM Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kal...@gmail.com> wrote: > > https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/blob/master/board/documents/osgeo_financial_guidance.pdf > > On 7/24/20 9:41 AM, Nyall Dawson wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 at 13:09, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Make a proposal to the board if you want to set this up as a cross > project initiative. > >> > >> Marketing board would happy to accept your proposal also (this is a > barrier to adoption). > >> > >> Approach project PSC individually also works. > >> > >> There is a PDF on osgeo GitHub on how to do this kind of thing ... > > Thanks Jody! > > > > Have you got a link to this PDF? > > > > Nyall > > > >> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 5:36 PM Nyall Dawson <nyall.daw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 23:38, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> This discussion starts to get into the value, it is a lot of work to > gather up these original or alternate sources ... both for end users > migrating to open source, and for OSGeo projects to do on their own. > >>>> > >>>> I think this would be a great group project. > >>> Brett has recently compiled a summary of these fonts and symbols here: > >>> https://github.com/Saijin-Naib/ESRI-Fonts-Cheat-Sheets > >>> > >>> What I think we should aim for is an equivalent of the "Liberation" > >>> font package, which implements freely licensed equivalents of the > >>> standard Windows font packages (Arial, Times New Roman, etc), with > >>> identical font metrics and similar styling so that they can be used > >>> effectively as a drop-in replacement. > >>> > >>> What would be the next step to move forward with this and approach > >>> osgeo for funding? > >>> > >>> Kind regards, > >>> Nyall > >>> > >>>> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 3:44 AM Brad Hards <br...@frogmouth.net> > wrote: > >>>>> I have no idea what is in the map fonts (or even what an ESRI map > font is), but if you're looking for the symbology for DNC and VMAP, (which > sound vaguely like: ESRI NIMA DNC LN, ESRI NIMA DNC PT, ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 > LN, ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 PT) its probably based on some variant of the NGA > GeoSym stuff - MIL-HDBK-857A and MIL-DTL-89045/A > >>>>> > >>>>> If you're prepared to deal with converting CGM to whatever that font > thing is, you can download the definitions from the NGA GWG Portrayal > Working Group at https://gwg.nga.mil/pfg_documents.php (expect a cert > warning) > >>>>> > >>>>> The ESRI Mil2525C Modifiers and some of those MilSym / MilMod things > might be MIL-STD-2525 (aka STANAG APP-6) symbology. Not usually treated as > a font though.... > >>>>> > >>>>> Brad > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> On Behalf Of Nyall > Dawson > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 3:46 PM > >>>>> To: Even Rouault <even.roua...@spatialys.com> > >>>>> Cc: OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map > fonts > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 01:13, Even Rouault < > even.roua...@spatialys.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> for my understanding, and hopefully help others, I assume the issue > is that you have a style definition where there are tuples of > (font_identifier, symbol_identifier_in_the_font) to define the styling of > layers with point geometries, right ? > >>>>> Partially, but the "bigger picture" is that there's just no > alternative freely available version of many of these symbol graphics > themselves. That's the blocker that I've encountered. > >>>>> > >>>>>> If that's only the former, then assuming there would be N open > fonts already covering the whole set of ESRI symbology fonts (unlikely), > one could possibly create a mapping between each tuple of (ESRI_font_id, > ESRI_symbol_id) to (OPEN_font_id, OPEN_symbol_id). If the later, then you > need a complete replacement for each proprietary font. > >>>>> It's the later. > >>>>> > >>>>>> How many symbols / fonts are we discussing about ? > >>>>> There's about 73 fonts total (see list below, may not be complete), > which average about 100 icons apiece. > >>>>> > >>>>> ESRI AMFM Electric > >>>>> ESRI AMFM Gas > >>>>> ESRI AMFM Sewer > >>>>> ESRI AMFM Water > >>>>> ESRI ArcPad > >>>>> ESRI Arrowhead > >>>>> ESRI Business > >>>>> ESRI Cartography > >>>>> ESRI Caves 1 > >>>>> ESRI Caves 2 > >>>>> ESRI Caves 3 > >>>>> ESRI Climate & Precipitation > >>>>> ESRI Commodities > >>>>> ESRI Conservation > >>>>> ESRI Crime Analysis > >>>>> ESRI Default Marker > >>>>> ESRI Dimensioning > >>>>> ESRI Elements > >>>>> ESRI Enviro Hazard Analysis > >>>>> ESRI Enviro Hazard Incident > >>>>> ESRI Enviro Hazard Sites > >>>>> ESRI Environmental & Icons > >>>>> ESRI ERS Infrastructures S1 > >>>>> ESRI ERS Operations S1 > >>>>> ESRI Fire Incident NFPA > >>>>> ESRI Geology AGSO 1 > >>>>> ESRI Geology > >>>>> ESRI Geology USGS 95-525 > >>>>> ESRI Geometric Symbols > >>>>> ESRI Hazardous Materials > >>>>> ESRI Hydrants > >>>>> ESRI IGL Font16 > >>>>> ESRI IGL Font20 > >>>>> ESRI IGL Font21 > >>>>> ESRI IGL Font22 > >>>>> ESRI IGL Font23 > >>>>> ESRI IGL Font24 > >>>>> ESRI IGL Font25 > >>>>> ESRI Meteorological 01 > >>>>> ESRI Mil2525C Modifiers > >>>>> ESRI MilMod 01 > >>>>> ESRI MilMod 02 > >>>>> ESRI MilRed 01 > >>>>> ESRI MilSym 01 > >>>>> ESRI MilSym 02 > >>>>> ESRI MilSym 03 > >>>>> ESRI MilSym 04 > >>>>> ESRI MilSym 05 > >>>>> ESRI NIMA City Graphic LN > >>>>> ESRI NIMA City Graphic PT > >>>>> ESRI NIMA DNC LN > >>>>> ESRI NIMA DNC PT > >>>>> ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 LN > >>>>> ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 PT > >>>>> ESRI North > >>>>> ESRI Oil, Gas, & Water > >>>>> ESRI Ordnance Survey > >>>>> ESRI Pipeline US 1 > >>>>> ESRI Public1 > >>>>> ESRI SDS 1.95 1 > >>>>> ESRI SDS 1.95 2 > >>>>> ESRI SDS 2.00 1 > >>>>> ESRI SDS 2.00 2 > >>>>> ESRI Shields > >>>>> ESRI Surveyor > >>>>> ESRI Telecom > >>>>> ESRI Transportation & Civic > >>>>> ESRI US Forestry 1 > >>>>> ESRI US Forestry 2 > >>>>> ESRI US MUTCD 1 > >>>>> ESRI US MUTCD 2 > >>>>> ESRI US MUTCD 3 > >>>>> ESRI Weather > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Discuss mailing list > >>>>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > >>>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Discuss mailing list > >>>>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > >>>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >>>> -- > >>>> -- > >>>> Jody Garnett > >> -- > >> -- > >> Jody Garnett > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > -- > Angelos Tzotsos, PhD > President > Open Source Geospatial Foundation > http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos > > -- -- Jody Garnett
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