Considering a C7000 with 16 blades, 32 hard disks, 1 power module, 6 fans, 1 network module, 16 licenses, 32 processors, 32 network cards, and 128 sticks of ram sold for anywhere between 44,000 and 130,000 as reticently as 3 years ago, $2,500 seems like quite a steal to me. That's less than $160 per server for dual quad-cores (8 cores) with 128 GB ram.
But the question of if we have the budget or if we will get any value out of it is a separate issue. On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote: > if we can magically get such a beast for say $200, I'm sure we'll do > it. Otherwise we have enough inefficient PC hardware around to use. > > > On 8/23/12, chris kluka <asd...@asdlkf.net> wrote: > > Just throwing this out there again, but... Hypervisor Cluster... > > > > For under $2,500, we can buy a compute cluster of 16 HP BL460c blades. > i've > > seen them as low as $2,000 with all 16 slots populated on ebay. > > > > We could make a hyper-V or VMWare or RHEV or QEMU cluster with 64-384 > cores > > and 128-2,048 GB ram... then turn on the dynamic power management so the > > cluster will turn off nodes that are not in use. If the VM's are getting > > enough clock cycles, the whole thing would run on 1 blade and less than > 350 > > watts of power. If performance requirements spike, extra blades will be > > automatically Wake-On-Lan booted to increase compute capacity, and VMs > will > > be live-migrated to redistribute load... > > > > We could reduce our power usage from the server room from $300 a month to > > $160/month and massively reduce our BTU generation (I can't give > realistic > > estimates on heat generation). > > > > We could, in theory, give everyone their own VM(s) in a single 8u > rackmount > > chassis. > > > > ROI would be 14-18 months (dispite the fact we do not actually pay for > > power...). > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Adrian Stoness > > <tdk.kni...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > >> there was a meter reading done recently.... i think its that high due to > >> it not being read in a long time..................... can u confrim this > >> justin > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Lynn <soccer_trek...@yahoo.co.uk> > wrote: > >> > >>> I think it should also be considered that my office place which is 4-5x > >>> as big(ground floor, lots of windows, horrible insulation, a/c or eat > >>> blasting all the time). With over 100 computers running all the time. > An > >>> enormous server room. An so on and so forth. We only spend about 2k on > >>> hydro a month. So you guys should be spending significantly less. > >>> > >>> Lynn > >>> > >>> On 2012-08-23, at 2:48 PM, Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > Umm, making the owner angry / think he's losing money is a quite bad > >>> > idea when they can terminate our lease pretty quickly. We need to see > >>> > how we can reduce usage. > >>> > > >>> > One big issue - with all the heat the 4x refrigerators would've been > >>> > working very hard to keep cool, that couldn't have been cheap. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On 8/23/12, Michael Loney <maikerulo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> >> Personally, I think we shouldn't worry about it. Still be mindful of > >>> usage > >>> >> but we don't own Marvin an explanation or extra effot to help > justify > >>> the > >>> >> cost. > >>> >> > >>> >> G Mike > >>> >> > >>> >> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:51 PM, clinton paetkau <phr...@gmail.com > > > >>> wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >>> also since i well no longer be spending any time at the space > >>> >>> elevator > >>> >>> use > >>> >>> will drop drastically and this will reduceelectical consumption > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Adrian Stoness > >>> >>> <tdk.kni...@gmail.com>wrote: > >>> >>> > >>> >>>> could be because of a meter reading being done recently and it was > >>> out > >>> >>>> from what hydro was reading remind marvin of this we should start > >>> help > >>> >>>> to > >>> >>>> insure the readings are updated to hydro regularly so these kinda > >>> bills > >>> >>>> don't happen > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Justin Lacko <jus...@takaji.ca> > >>> wrote: > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>>> One of our electrical bills came in and caused a bit of an issue > >>> with > >>> >>>>> the owner, Marvin - it was $2500 and they are assuming a very > >>> >>>>> large > >>> >>>>> portion of that is our floor. They are upset that it is high. > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> The reality is that they don't understand the bill, and there are > >>> >>>>> a > >>> >>>>> lot of misconceptions of what we do up here. Marvin complained > >>> >>>>> that > >>> he > >>> >>>>> leased us the space as offices, not as manufacturing (this is > >>> >>>>> frivolous as he's making his own distinction on this and our > lease > >>> >>>>> says nothing to this effect) and that we're running heavy > >>> >>>>> equipment > >>> up > >>> >>>>> here 24/7. Mike Legary gave a rough estimate of our power > >>> consumption > >>> >>>>> at max $750/mo. - nowhere near this bill. Mike and I are meeting > >>> with > >>> >>>>> Marvin next Tuesday to clarify this issue. > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> One thing that we need to do to make sure this situation does not > >>> >>>>> occur is to be mindful of our power consumption in the space - I > >>> don't > >>> >>>>> mean we need to cut back, but we have to understand that whatever > >>> >>>>> we > >>> >>>>> do costs money and we are responsible for ensuring that our costs > >>> >>>>> don't skyrocket - otherwise the landlord WILL come back to us > >>> >>>>> again. > >>> >>>>> There is a misconception that AssentWorks draws a lot of power > and > >>> it > >>> >>>>> "must be them because of all that machinery" - in reality most of > >>> >>>>> their machinery is only running for an hour a day, and SkullSpace > >>> >>>>> actually uses more power than AssentWorks (the server room is > >>> probably > >>> >>>>> costing us around $300/mo. to run). We can no longer be of the > >>> opinion > >>> >>>>> that "since we don't pay for power, we can leave whatever we want > >>> >>>>> running." > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> Over the next few months our power situation will be transforming > >>> (pun > >>> >>>>> intended) and our usage will change - but we will be responsible > >>> about > >>> >>>>> this and everything will work out! > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> Thanks, > >>> >>>>> Justin > >>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>> >>>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >>> >>>>> Help: > http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >>> >>>>> Archive: > >>> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>> >>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >>> >>>> Help: > http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >>> >>>> Archive: > >>> >>>> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >>> >>>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >>> >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >>> >>> Archive: > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >>> >>> > >>> >> > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >>> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >>> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >
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