-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The options as I see it: a) Accept this new lease, which isn't unreasonable and which we can afford. b) Wind up homeless, very likely shut down or resume scavenging for free space for events and trying to find a better deal than what we're being offered now
On the plus side, if we don't take the lease, we walk away clean and with a lot of new friends. The odds of actually finding a new/better spot - especially within such a tight timeframe - I'd rank to be minimal. It took us far more than 6 months initially, and that was with several people putting a lot of effort into it. Ron On 2012-10-10 17:12, Roswyne wrote: > *Against.* This amounts to increasing our rent by almost *two thirds*, > even including the public usage. And they're not even willing to install a > meter to bill us by. > > > They signed a bad lease, and that's a shame. But I'm sure they wouldn't > drop our rent by a comparable rate if we had signed at twice the rate and > then decided we were paying too much. > > If they want, they can invoke the 6 month clause, and we have half a year > to find another place. I can live with that. > > > And there's no way we should pay the back electrical bills. According to > the lease in effect at the time, that's their bill. > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Justin Lacko <jus...@takaji.ca> wrote: > > > Hello members, > > > > I just finished speaking with the landlords, and Jake, the Remco > > representative. > > > > This is what we're looking at for our new lease, should we choose to > > accept it: > > - Tenant covers gas and electricity; owner provides $1000 annually to > > cover public electrical usage > > - Revision of 6 month clause to come into effect only for the purpose > > of the building going Red River/similar-type owner (wording still > > being revised by landlord) > > - 5 year lease > > - Base rent stays at $1500 > > > > This is less than we hoped for upon negotiation as a group, but it's > > the best I could do, as the representative of SkullSpace - I got our > > point across that we have very little surplus monthy to afford more. > > We must understand that we're getting the floor for ~$2.00/sq. ft. - > > which is far less than anywhere else in this neighbourhood by a > > conservative estimate of $3. We pay $18k annually in rent. The > > landlord is making absolutely no profit on us - in fact, they're > > losing money with the current agreement. They just want us to pay our > > own electrical and stop losing money - they will be breaking even this > > way. This is about as fair as it gets. The $1500 we pay covers the > > insurance and taxes and water. Talk about upgrading the windows and > > such did occur, but it would happen at the cost of raising the rent > > substantially (think double) so the landlord could recoup the cost > > over time. Electrical metering is still being discussed but it seems > > that given that the landlord will offset the cost of public services > > with a $1k subsidy, they may just leave it as-is, and then breakout > > metering of SkullSpace and AssentWorks will have to be done (Mike > > Legary and I are in discussion about how we're going to work this). > > > > The tough part that I need to clarify with Remco is that the landlord > > wants us to pay our previous couple of electrical bills - note that > > this is a separate issue from the lease and does not affect if we sign > > it or not, so please treat it separately. > > > > Guys, I can't stress enough that there's no room for negotiation here > > any further concerning our lease. Either we accept this or we walk... > > I can guarantee you that you won't find a deal like this anywhere - > > you simply won't. > > > > Therefore I am proposing that we sign the lease once it has been > > drafted and accurately reflects what I have outlined above. > > AssentWorks is already on-board and will sign the lease. > > > > Please indicate your support by responding with a yea or a nay for > > supporting this. > > > > I will answer questions of clarification but will not respond any > > further to asking for more concessions in the lease or responses to > > rants about how the landlord is bad because of this or that. > > _______________________________________________ > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlB185cACgkQ2t2zxlt4g/S/aQCgmMR5+D+e8QDQ6zyJBnygwYhc JK8AoKre1cC7Mw7m7DPlnLKfU/QA8ECf =gCBS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/
