I prefer cards with less inking and coatings. They work better when I use them for filters.
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Ron <r...@skullsecurity.net> wrote: > If we want to make sure that people have our phone number, we should put > it on our Web site, with the proper disclaimers, then put the Web site > on the card. > > Like A.Michael said, keep it simple. We can put any contact info that > won't comfortably (or sanely) fit on the card onto the site, including > open nights, phone number, tour info, etc. > > Ron > > On 2013-09-01 01:20, Roswyne wrote: > > Sorry Jay, just getting frustrated, mostly with myself, I guess, and I > > inadvertently put words in your mouth. > > > > The only reason I could see not to put the space's phone number on the > > cards would be if there's any difficulty in responding to voicemail. A > > phone seems to be a valuable potential method of contact to offer. > > > > Although I understand that Ron and Brittany and others give out their own > > phone numbers when taking lead on specific issues, these are "company" > > business cards, not personal ... so if a # is provided, it should be the > > SkSp line. Is providing it going to hurt anything? At worst, I think it > may > > clutter the card slightly. > > On Sep 1, 2013 12:20 AM, "Jay Smith" <jayvsm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > ...The number isn't on the website. It's just in the wiki. > > > > > > > If no one is willing to return calls, then you're right: the number > > > shouldn't be on business cards. > > > Right, so I see we've entered the passive aggressive phase of the > > > discussion. > > > > > > Colin, prepare the Thunder-dome. > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Roswyne <rosw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > (shrugging) > > > > > > > > If no one is willing to return calls, then you're right: the number > > > > shouldn't be on business cards. > > > > > > > > By the same reasoning, perhaps we should not print it on the next > batch > > > of > > > > pamphlets, and take it off the website. > > > > > > > > On Aug 31, 2013 7:47 PM, "Colin Stanners" <cstann...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> simple solution: after the phone number put the next "if anyone's > here". > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Jay Smith <jayvsm...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> "I think the cards are incomplete without our phone number." > > > >>> Huh? The business card police are not going to hunt you down if you > > > >>> create one without a phone number. I'd rather not have to explain > to > > > >>> everybody I hand the card out to that: 1) It will almost always go > to > > > >>> voice mail 2) if it doesn't go to voice-mail, you'll get a random > > > >>> member and likely not the person you need to talk to. > > > >>> > > > >>> "Can I have a tour of the space?" doesn't even register on the > list of > > > >>> things we get phone calls for - and even if it did - that phone > number > > > >>> is far from the best way to approach it. Brittany gets phone calls > for > > > >>> SkullSpace Social matters, Ron gets phone calls for media queries, > > > >>> I'll likely get phone calls regarding C4 things, Ian will get phone > > > >>> calls regarding collaborations with other groups, random members > will > > > >>> get calls for projects, events, and research they're doing. We are > NOT > > > >>> going to tell any of our contacts to call an unmanned number to > reach > > > >>> us. > > > >>> > > > >>> It is rude, it's useless, and frankly it's embarrassing. > > > >>> > > > >>> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Roswyne <rosw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >>> > I think the cards are incomplete without our phone number. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Leaving voicemail isn't offensive: the only potential issue I > see is > > > if > > > >>> > the > > > >>> > call isn't returned in a reasonable timeframe. Since it'll go > to the > > > >>> > same > > > >>> > people, I imagine the turnaround would be the same as emailing > info@ > > > . > > > >>> > > > > >>> > If you are making a personal contact and provide your personal > phone > > > >>> > number, > > > >>> > then there would naturally be different expectations when > calling it, > > > >>> > and > > > >>> > that's your choice if you want to give out your own number. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Thanks very much for working on these, and explaining how cards > are > > > >>> > used > > > >>> > differently than brochures. TIL ! :) > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Jay Smith <jayvsm...@gmail.com > > > > > >>> > wrote: > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > But I'm still not sure why we not also list the SkSp phone > number. > > > >>> >> Mostly because it will likely end in painful frustration for > queries > > > >>> >> other than "Is anybody at the space right now?", and also > because if > > > >>> >> I'm giving someone a business card it's likely to facilitate > > > follow-up > > > >>> >> on something very specific. For example, if it's a media > person, I'm > > > >>> >> likely going to have them follow up to me directly so I can get > them > > > >>> >> in touch with the board (Or I might just shamelessly give them > Ron > > > or > > > >>> >> Ian's number - sorry in advance guys!). It's true that the space > > > >>> >> voicemail does go straight to i...@skullspace.ca, but I'd > consider > > > it > > > >>> >> pretty rude if somebody gave me the phone number to a voice-mail > > > >>> >> system. > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> Again, it's important to keep in mind the context in which > business > > > >>> >> cards are given out. Traditionally, a business card is only > given > > > out > > > >>> >> after a personal connection is made - it's supposed to serve as > a > > > >>> >> physical representation of that contact (Japanese business > culture > > > >>> >> takes this to the extreme). I'm not going to give a voice-mail > > > number > > > >>> >> to a good contact. > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> Aside: As they represent personal contacts - business cards are > also > > > >>> >> supposed to survive for a long time - this is why I'm not a fan > of > > > >>> >> "free" business cards that fall apart easily. Leaflets and > brochures > > > >>> >> however, are expected to have the lifespan of however long it > takes > > > to > > > >>> >> read them. > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> Your earlier comments seem to indicate that you view business > cards > > > as > > > >>> >> a cheaper replacement for brochures. I'm afraid they don't > replace > > > >>> >> each other so much as compliment each other. > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> - Jay / @Sporked > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> Ps. I understand that I'm pulling a total Patrick Bateman when > it > > > >>> >> comes to business cards, and I apologize to everyone who sees > this > > > as > > > >>> >> an insane amount of bikeshedding over a piece of paper. I just > > > really > > > >>> >> happen to be fascinated by the design and thought that goes into > > > >>> >> mundane things like this :) > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Roswyne <rosw...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >>> >> > I think that looks great! > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > But I'm still not sure why we not also list the SkSp phone > number. > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > Even if it's not ideal (for instant communication), it's got > > > >>> >> > voicemail > > > >>> >> > which > > > >>> >> > the directors automatically receive, in much the same way the > > > info@ > > > >>> >> > address > > > >>> >> > works, afaik. > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > And a blank back for notes etc. Per what Jay was saying :) > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone on the MTS High Speed > Mobility > > > >>> >> > Network > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > -----Original Message----- > > > >>> >> > From: Jeremy Hiebert <jkhieb...@gmail.com> > > > >>> >> > Sender: discuss-bounces@lists.skullspace.caDate: Fri, 30 Aug > 2013 > > > >>> >> > 17:50:37 > > > >>> >> > To: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca<discuss@lists.skullspace.ca> > > > >>> >> > Reply-To: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca > > > >>> >> > Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] SkSp business cards > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > > > >>> >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > > >>> >> > Help: > > > http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > > >>> >> > Archive: > > > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > > > >>> >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > > >>> >> > Help: > > > http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > > >>> >> > Archive: > > > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > > > >>> >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > > >>> >> > Help: > > > http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > > >>> >> > Archive: > > > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > > >>> >> Help: > http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > > >>> >> Archive: > > > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > > > >>> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > > >>> > Help: > http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > > >>> > Archive: > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > > >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > > >>> Archive: > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > > >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > > >> Archive: > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > -- -- ) thor.robinson; ) icon/phreshlyspun/ppca/skullspace -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GMU/O/AT/! d- s+:+ a C++++ UL++++ P L+++@ E---- W@ N! o K? w--- O- M-- V? 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