I guess my point is not that I distrust Metz... but that I don't understand your idea of "going off-roading".
At the end of the day, you need a device to be inserted into another device which allows for mechanical and repeated connection of 8 connectors in an industry standard alignment and dimension. These connectors seem like gold plated HDMI cables to me... I don't see what benefit they serve over the 5 cent monoprice connectors in this purpose. Say you charge $150 an hour to install these and you install say one every 10 minutes (including averaged time of getting to the worksite, setting up, buying cable, your time spent in sourcing these things, etc... and you work for 4 hours and install 24 of these in 4 hours for $600. Assuming you are charging for time and materials, your 24 connectors cost your customer 24 * $12.35 = $296.4. Now, using the 5 cent monoprice connectors, you do the same job, but use $2.00 worth of materials. One of these connectors fails. You come back on site for another hour diagnosing the issue and another hour setting up, fixing the end, and tearing down. Either way, the cost to the customer is ~ $900, except the last $300 is in your pocket instead of at a cable parts manufacturer. To me, this decision is up to the scenario you are installing into. Investing $300 per 24 terminations is a valuable proposition to you to warrant reduced proability of being required to fix a problem, then sure, do that. Personally, $300 in connectors or 2 hours of my time to fix one bad end has a forgone conclusion. That conclusion might be different for you. I didn't mean to dismiss your interest in this topic, but to me, yes, I have to say "the Neon **always** gets me where I need to go." On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Adam Thompson <[email protected]>wrote: > On 13-10-22 10:20 PM, chris kluka wrote: > >> Um.... seems like snake oil to me. >> >> I use these: >> >> http://www.monoprice.com/**Product?c_id=105&cp_id=10513&** >> cs_id=1051305&p_id=7245&seq=1&**format=2<http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=105&cp_id=10513&cs_id=1051305&p_id=7245&seq=1&format=2> >> >> 100 pack for $5.56. >> >> I've never had a cable fail cat6 or even cat6a certification using them. >> > > I seriously doubt that *Metz* is selling snake oil. If they say it works > a certain way, it works a certain way. Period. These guys are OEM > providers to top-shelf cable manufacturers and users. > > In this case, you're comparing a Jeep to to a Dodge Neon and saying "the > Neon always gets me where I need to go"... while I'm asking "is renting a > Jeep worth the extra expense if I'm going off-roading"? > > I can make Cat6A-verifiables cable, too, using the cheap, non-traceable, > non-verifiable, non-warrantyable connectors from (e.g.) Monoprice. Doing > so in the field is a royal pain in the ass to begin with if I don't have a > clean, flat, stable, well-lit work surface, and hand-crimped cables have a > nasty habit of slowly degrading over time. > > What I wanted to know was, is there *enough* of a difference using the > Metz connectors to terminate in crummy field conditions, to be worth the > (somewhat outrageous) price? > > The only time I make my own cables nowadays is under emergency conditions, > usually in cramped spaces where there's no convenient work surface. If the > Metz connectors make my life easier, using them exclusively won't make a > huge difference to my bottom line in terms of supplies, but if it increases > the *speed* with which I can terminate a cable, and/or it increases the > *long-term* reliability of my cable, then it might be worth sourcing them, > and they might pay for themselves over the long run. > > On the other hand, if someone who's used them says "it takes me 2 minutes > to terminate using a traditional plug & crimp tool, the Metz connectors > only shave 30sec off that and I had a couple fail" then I won't even bother. > > Or, a report of "it takes me 2 minutes to terminate using a traditional > plug & crimp tool, the Metz connectors only take 30sec, and they withstand > a lot of abuse" then it's probably worth buying a package sight-unseen and > paying the large up-front cost. > > In the middle, or absent any reports, I'll have to bring some in (which, > with Metz, is a royal PITA and a huge waste of my time) and find out for > myself. > > -Adam > > > ______________________________**_________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: > http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/**index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss<http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss> > Archive: > https://groups.google.com/**group/skullspace-discuss-**archive/<https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/> >
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