On Jun 19, 2009, at 6:34 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> I've seen a password manager application (it goes out and changes  
> the root password on your production systems) that when asked about  
> failover/DR issues responded with "we run under vmware and it takes  
> care of everything". they didn't even use a shared disk (the DR  
> scenerio is with systems across the US from each other, no shared  
> disk available), but they claimed that there was zero chance that  
> the california system could ever change a password and then crash in  
> such a way that the Georgia system would not have the new password.

Then they were just blatantly lying to you. Up until two weeks ago,  
VMware didn't even *have* "Constant Availability". Their prior HA[1]  
solution was more of a "oh, that unit is down, let me restart another  
copy of the guest somewhere else using the same disk", which - without  
shared storage - wouldn't work either. It was essentially "power-fail  
redundancy"... the new VM started up as if the power had been yanked  
out, but only if the "backup" server had access to the disks.

ie., VMware wasn't even capable of *pretending* to do anything for them.

Just because that particular company was clueless[2] is no reason to  
paint the virtualization HA solutions with a broad brush. :)

D

[1] which, we'll all agree, is *NOT* "HA", but that's what it was  
branded, so that's what I'm calling it, and hence why they started  
referring to their new solution as "CA"/Constant availabilty in their  
PPT slides when they came by for the dog-n-pony-show, to differentiate  
it....
[2] It's possible they were pairing VMware HA with some SAN hardware's  
real-time replication so that the HA device would be pointing to a  
different LUN somewhere else that was replicated at the SAN level from  
the master, but [a] you haven't mentioned that, and [b] I'm not even  
sure VMware supports that

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