The NStableView object needs to implement cut/paste capability. Once that's done, all tables (or list views as they're sometimes called) would automatically become vo compatability. This is something that needs done at the api level. If apple adds that feature, then vo users (as well as everyone else) would be able to move things around in a table. Regular sighted folks can do it now, simply by dragging items around. We can't do that. I've been experimenting with code to try to emulate a drag and drop operation, but haven't gotten it to work just yet. The basic premace is simple enough, but pretending to be dragging isn't as simple *grumble*

Perhaps if I knew how to insert events into the cue, I could emulate a drag operation that might work reliably. But, it's certainly possible if done by apple, perhaps they could just give vo that capability, then a lot more things besides table views would be able to have things done (putting urls in the doc anyone?) although, that's another thing I've been fiddling around with and getting nowhere. <sigh. Too much experimenting, and very little results. Well, knowledge is power, eventually I'll know all the ways something can't be done. process of elimination. *grin*
On Apr 4, 2006, at 6:16 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

Ah, ok so what we need to do is convence those Apple engineers to implement a means to move these connections around in some fashion. This is where a "cut and paste" feature might be handy in VO. If any of you programming types out there have any suggested solutions, pass them along and I'll be happy to submit them to Apple. This entire deal wold be applicable on a laptop more so perhaps than a machine.

tnx


Scott



On Apr 3, 2006, at 9:33 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:

By default, the mac will connect (or attempt to) to the first network in your connection list. This is where the sighted person comes in. If you've got multiple networks (like I do) you need to drag the wireless connection to the top of the table. Then, whenever you reboot the mac, it will loginto the first network in the list. It works for me, and still allows me to use the mac as a gateway for 3 other machines connected to a hub, and the hub is connected to the lan port of the mini. Works like a charm. Of course, the setup is a pain in the butt, but once it's setup, it works considerably well. If you have the gateway configuration tool, it will help make the configuration a whole lot easier. Of course, I didn't know this until after I'd done my configuration the first time. Even the gateway setup didn't do all the work, I still needed to fiddle with connection settings on the other machines a bit, but at least it works now all the time.
Apple sure did a nice job with that proggy.
On Apr 3, 2006, at 7:00 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

Folks, got a question. I recently was looking for a way to make it possible for my Macs to connect to my AirPort Extreme automatically upon login. I spoke to Apple Care on this extensively and what we ended up doing was to delete any and all connections my Macs had previously connected to in order to force it to connect to the only network available. Does anyone know of a means to accomplish this without having to remove those additional networks? I doubt it as he did a fair amount of research, but I'm curious. This idea was to make it easier for my wife so she wouldn't have to type in the shared key each time she logged in.
Any thoughts appreciated.


Scott














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