The Nano does not have a touch screen. I've tried to use one before. It is
very similar to larger iPod models but smaller. Its so small I have trouble
working the controls. No iPod at this point exists with just a touch screen
interface. This has been rumored to be in the next incarnation of the iPod
but as of yet is not. I have a friend who has the newest video iPod and I
myself use a 4th generation iPod and by using the clicks and such that the
device makes when moving around I can navigate some features. Can I bring
up a specific artist to listen to...No. But, I can find the playlist I want
just by memorizing that playlists menu option is 2 clicks down, select the
item and then I have 6 playlists that come up and by clicking down the list
and having them memorized I can navigate. The one at the top being 80's,
one click down being 90's, 5 clicks down being jazz and so on. I'd love to
be able to access all of the features but it works for me. The shuffle is
totally useful and I use one at the gym regularly. So, while these devices
are not perfect for the blind and could be far better, they can be used.
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From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
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Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Ipods, will apple make a jump down this road?
Well, at my end I'll happily end this discussion by saying that no matter
what the accessability argument is, the Ipod shuffle is perfectly useable
so go and buy one and its nice to have a perfectly usable product for a
change as my DVD Player, VCR recorder are perfectly usable because I sat
down and spent time working them out.
The Ipod Nano on the other hand is something that I doubt you'll ever get
truly usable for a blind person because (the way it seems to me) it has a
touch screen so that goes out the window but I'm not going to wage war
against Apple just because they bring out something with a flat touch
screen, I'll just keep using the shuffle or find something better such as
an Iriver etc.
Dane Trethowan
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On 30/05/2006, at 12:38 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
Turn this around just a bit. The shuffle lacks certain accessibility
features which would benefit blind and sighted alike. Now, while it is
true that accessible is the same or nearly so for sighted and blind
alike, we see that acccessibility can be improved for both. I hope this
begins to make sense. We don't compair the accessibility of a product
for different groups and if found equally accessible say the product is
accessible. We look at what makes something truly acceessible. This
product needs a lot of work, but it is not alone.
On May 29, 2006, at 8:49 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
I'm really puzzled here.
What exactly is your definition of accessible?
If I can access all the functions of a unit, and I can do it in exactly
the same way the sighted folks do, regardless of the device, or the
medium, isn't that accessible?
I don't care that the shuffle doesn't have certain functions in it.
I.E. voice feedback for song titles, or play counters or the like. The
important thing is that it works for us exactly the same way it works
for the sighted people using it. What about this scenario is not
accessible?
And what about a cd player isn't accessible?
I can put a cd in my player, move forward, backward, skip songs, and
even randomly play songs if I desire (assuming the player has a button
for this function) here, I don't see a difference between
sighted/nonsighted access either. Most cd players (except for the
portable ones) don't have a display for sighted folks either, so where's
the non accessible features?
I believe you're confusing accessibility with feature rich. Just
because something doesn't have a feature I'd like, doesn't make it
inaccessible, it merely makes it not robust enough for my liking.
That's a completely different issue than being able to use it's
functions without sighted assistance.
Please try explaining what exactly it is you're trying to say here,
because I for one don't understand your point.
