Ah ok, well I have to admit, I didnt' spend allot of time playing with the Nano and you're absolutely right, the Shuffle doesn't have nor does it need a wheel as its extremely basic, it does what it says it does, that is plays audio.

On 07/03/2007, at 3:32 AM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:

I've looked at the nano, and the clickwheel appears to be the same on them, but I'll find out from a friend of mine who owns one. The only wheel that i know of that you don't run your finger along the edge to move through menu items is the Shuffle, which has limited navigation in any case.


Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ok I beg your pardon, I thought you were talking about something entirely different, the wheel as seen on the Nano is different from what you described.

On 07/03/2007, at 3:17 AM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:

That is called the click wheel, and i have the same one on a 40GB 4G iPod, though I've used it on the 30GB video iPod belonging to someone else. It works fine. The iPod clicks for menu items, and the menus do not wrap. You can easily set the menu items to click through the headphones output as well. If you familiarize yourself with the menu items you will be using, it is a simple task to move through them. Pressing down on the top of the wheel moves you back a menu. Pressing select in the center of the wheel selects the menu item. I'm not sure how the myth was started that a blind person couldn't use an iPod with a click wheel, but it has been remarkably persistent.

In the artists menu, the names are arranged in alphabetical order. With a little practice you can become very fast at finding what you want, because you can guess roughly where in the menu the artist you are looking for is located. If I'm looking for George Michael and I click into Elton John, I know i have only a little further to go, for example. Artists are arranged by the first letter of the name, which puts Elton in E and George in G.


william lomas wrote:
josh

which i pod do u have?
i am prepared to learn it, but i dont have the one with a wheel that physically clicks. it is the one that you slide your hand around the wheel, do you kno the one i mean?
thanks for any help you can give
will

On 6 Mar 2007, at 16:21, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:

I've been using an iPod without RockBox or any other modifications for years now. If you take a little time to learn the device, it is quite simple to operate without speech. I rather expect that sooner or later iPods will support speech access, but it is far from necessary to use them. If you are not inclined to take the time to learn how to use the iPod, that is one thing. But saying they are wholly unuseable is totally inaccurate.


On Mar 6, 2007, at 08:01 , william lomas wrote:

hi all

i have a question for you all. if we buy all these albums and books and movies now off the itunes store, how are we going to take them on the road with us. the i pods don't bother to support the playback of itunes music files with rockbox, so aren't we wasting money buying all this stuff, as we can't access the folders without speech support really, so do you understand what i saying? smile while i love itunes now, we cant play the stuff we are purchasing on the move, accept on our computers
just my 2 cents worth
will

















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