here here! thank you for writing my thoughts exactly.

Gabe

On Apr 16, 2007, at 5:36 PM, Greg Kearney wrote:

While sometimes I too wish that Apple would be more aggressive about advertising VoiceOver in a way I think it tell us a great deal about how they view accessibility in general.

In the Apple mindset accessibility should just be a natural extension of the computer experience. It is just something that is there in every computer sold. Sort of like a keyboard. When was the last time you saw an ad for a computer that extolled the wonders of it coming with a keyboard or a mouse? Apple's efforts is to make computer that can be used by anyone, computers that people will come to simply expect that of course if I am blind or dyslexic I will be able to use a Mac. The fact that Apple is held to a very high standard when it come to anything involving the human-computer interface, and that includes VoiceOver, is not a bad thing at all. Apple has survived all these years exactly on that reputation.

When seen as part of a lager philosophical approach to computer and how humans use them it seem out of place for Apple to call attention to VoiceOver because VoiceOver is simply one small part of a complete environment, like cut and paste, AppleScript or a hundred other parts of the Macintosh experience.

Greg
On Apr 16, 2007, at 18:18 , Gabe Vega wrote:

it just doesn't make sense to me why they would. we should just all feel confertable in the fact that there is a built in fefree usable screen reader on every mac out there. I am not sure why they have to push it. i mean come on its not costing us anything why is it a tool for them to ppush. they won't make more money off it.

On Apr 16, 2007, at 4:47 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:


On Apr 16, 2007, at 4:39 PM, Gabe Vega wrote:

again, I think if she felt so strongly about it, she would have posted publically on the site of interest about voice over ad how it is more than just an annoying tool. why must we depend on apple to do it for us.

sorry don't mean to argue just making point s here. thanks

Well, both Holly and I have emailed podcasts and other outlets, and I'd be very surprised to hear that we were the only ones. But really, I think it is Apple's responsibility to market their own product. It's great for us on the list to be advocates for VO and the Mac, but Apple needs to push it as well.








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