Understood.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
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Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc.
9 Nolan Court
Hauppauge, NY 11788
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On Jun 19, 2007, at 2:15 PM, Greg Kearney wrote:
Apple need to hire me if I'm going to do all this.
Greg
On Jun 19, 2007, at 12:11 , John Panarese wrote:
Hi Greg,
Perhaps, between the application additions and all the other
things you do, you might want to talk about creating a database of
some kind that lists the advantages of the Mac over Windows from
the perspective of the blind user? I know you have all that time
on your hands. *smile* Please don't kill me ....
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Managing Director
Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc.
9 Nolan Court
Hauppauge, NY 11788
Tel/Fax, (631) 724-4479
Email, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet, http://www.tvi-web.com
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DUXBURY, SEROTEK AND OTHER PRODUCTS FOR THE BLIND AND VISUALLY
IMPAIRED
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MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING
On Jun 19, 2007, at 1:53 PM, Greg Kearney wrote:
I can be pointed out to agencies that the cost of a Mac for a
blind user is quite a bit less than for a PC. The ongoing cost to
keep WindowEyes or JAWS up to date is also much greater for a
Windows computer than for a Mac which will get VoiceOVer update
as part of the OS update which runs less than half of a typical
Jaws update price alone.
Greg
On Jun 19, 2007, at 11:22 , John Panarese wrote:
Hi Christopher,
One of the things I have done is direct folks to the Mac
Visionaries website and list. I agree that there should
possibly be a resource created that defines reasons for blind
users for switching from Windows to the Mac. However,
regardless of how well organized such an effort might be, there
is still going to be entrenched resistance to the Mac. I
encounter it often, and it's pretty much like trying to get
someone to use a car over a horse and buggy or turn from putting
square wheels on their cart. At least, you might have more
success in those situations than getting some state agencies to
even consider a Mac over a PC at the moment. The movement has
to grow and gain a lot more strength and momentum.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Managing Director
Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc.
9 Nolan Court
Hauppauge, NY 11788
Tel/Fax, (631) 724-4479
Email, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet, http://www.tvi-web.com
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VA, PREMIER ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGIES, INDEX, PAPENMEIER, REPRO-
TRONICS, DUXBURY, SEROTEK AND OTHER PRODUCTS FOR THE BLIND AND
VISUALLY IMPAIRED
AUTHORIZED APPLE BUSINESS AGENT
MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING
On Jun 18, 2007, at 10:27 PM, CHRISTOPHER PEPPEL wrote:
Hi Everybody,
I think that we need to come up with a list of reasons why
blind people
should switch to the Mac. You can find plenty of reasons why
sighted people
should switch, but what about the blind? Yes, Voiceover is
certainly one
compeling reason, but I am sure there are many more.
Chris Peppel
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Richard Gardenhire
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 4:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Macs and a Viable Alternative for State Agencies to
Consider
Josh, I changed the subject line a bit to ask about another
argument
that has been used by our agency here in Alaska. Are there any
statistics that show a percentage increase or decrease in the
number of
blind and visually-impaired people--professional or otherwise,
who have
made the switch from Windows to Macs, with the development of
Voiceover? I would be curious as to what percentage, on a
national
scale, for example, use their Macs for their professional line
of work?
According to what I have been told by people who work in the
Alaska
school districts, for instance, the Matanuska-Susitna Valley
districts
use more Macs, per capita, of any community in Alaska, including
Anchorage; however, that number is changing as more bush and rural
schools are using them in their schools. The number of blind
students
being exposed to the Mac and VoiceOver is increasing, but that's a
slow, painstaking work in progress, because our counselors are
heavily
influenced by Windows screen manufacturers to continue pushing
their
products. Our school districts here in Alaska are facing
budget cuts,
as are a lot of school districts throught the country, and our
Anchorage store gets inquiries from Division of Voc Rehab,
asking how
viable VoiceOver is? In fact, one of the counselors for the
blind set
up an appointment to meet with me on behalf of a client who
they are
serving, who wants to use his computer for his vending
business, as
well as music. At last count, I know of eight, blind/visually-
impaired
Mac users in the state of Alaska--three in Anchorage, one in
Juneau,
two on the Kenai )pronounced Keen Eye0 Peninsula, and three in
Fairbanks. That number has probably changed, for the upcoming
University of Alaska-Anchorage fall enrollment. I would be
curious to
know how other states are faring? Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage,
Alaska. I stand corrected; there are only two, in Fairbanks,
and a
student in the Fairbanks School District who is learning to use
one.
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