Hi Will,

On Monday, September 10, 2007, at 07:05AM, "william lomas"  wrote:
>       hi
>
>i am beeing asked to choose an i tunes library so why does voice over  
>keep crashing it doing my head in lol

I you don't want to be asked for an iTunes library when you start up iTunes,
launch iTunes with Command+o (the keyboard shortcut to open applications)
or else launch it from the dock using the enter key.

To summarize the discussion from last week, iTunes (and some third party
applications, like Rogue Amoeba's Audio Hijack) give you alternate startup
options when you hold down the option key while launching the application.
If you don't release the VoiceOver keys (control+option) fast enough on
launching the app, it's interpreted as launching with the option key pressed.
This doesn't happen if you've used the VoiceOver keys lock option, as
Lou reported -- only if you're actually holding down the control and option
keys when you start up the app.

In the case of iTunes, holding down the option key while launching the
app is interpreted as giving you the opportunity to open a different iTunes
library -- which can be useful if you want to start iTunes with another user's
library, or if you have a master library on your local network that you use
when your laptop is at home, instead of the default iTunes library on your 
laptop, for example.

This also used to be a bug (back in April) when you used the import button
in iTunes to start importing CDs, and were holding down the VoiceOver keys
-- holding down the option key when this was pressed was interpreted as
prompting you for an alternate location to put the ripped tracks.  If you used
the contextual menu to import selected items in your songs outline (Convert 
selection to ... AAC, mp3, or other format selected in your iTunes preferences)
or if you started your rips from the Advanced menu option of iTunes you 
never saw this "feature" of getting prompted for alternate locations.  Now
when you select the import button your CD tracks will just get ripped to the
default iTunes library location whether or not you hold down the VoiceOver
keys (or the option key). 

>when i interact with the browser it jsut keeps resetting itself and  
>all i get is voice is ready or whatever it says lol
>before i ahd no problems here but if i don't choose my current  
>library of songs i can't continue

Will, this shouldn't happen; even if you use the option prompt for iTunes you
shouldn't be able to crash VoiceOver.  I'm consolidating your later comment
solution into this thread for the benefit of people checking the archive: 

> to get around the voice over reset issue go up the list rather than   
> down it when asked to choose library in i tunes 

I would report this to the accessibilty people at Apple.  They're gettting
good about responding.  It also helps to let them know how people
are actually using VoiceOver to give them some context.  One of the
questions I got back was:

>I know this sounds simple, but why not   
>just let go of the VO keys when starting up iTunes?  Or, lock the VO   
>keys while starting up iTunes?   

And this led to a brief discussion of what combinations were most convenient,
and suggestions they might add to the VoiceOver documentation.

Dan's suggestions (exit and restart -- and be quicker to release VO keys;
or use the command-o sequence) also work:

>Also, I just exit and restart iTunes. But now I use the Command O to   
>launch applications so I don't have that problem any more. I sure   
>hope that in Leopard, there is the option to make your own hot keys   
>to launch VO. 
>Dan 

Cheers, 

Esther

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