Yep, but, again, it's the nature of the beast. I am with you. I don't personally like it, but after fourteen years in the adaptive technology field, even the smaller companies can be just as uncommunicative. I would mention the two companies I spoke of, but I'd prefer to leave that out, as it would be off topic and probably get someone annoyed with me.

Take Care

John Panarese

On Nov 8, 2007, at 10:39 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:

but they want you to support there product or service.
On Nov 8, 2007, at 10:35 PM, John Panarese wrote:

I have to agree with this. Beyond Apple, I've found that many companies simply do not respond to every email or call or letter they receive. It is, without a doubt, frustrating, to say the least. Similarly, agencies and organizations can be equally as guilty. Realistically, if there are several messages being filed with them every day, it is reasonable to assume that not every one will garner a response, especially if it is not an actual inquiry. I agree that it is discourteous, so don't think I'm making "excuses" for anyone. Still, it is the nature of the beast. I can tell you of two companies that have yet to respond to a number of emails I've sent asking specific questions about a product. In one case, I sent my fourth today to them.


Take Care

John Panarese

On Nov 8, 2007, at 9:53 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:

I beg to differ here. Not that I don't agree with you that in a perfect world, people should really be able to have the time they need to respond and such, as they'd surely like to, but really in most fast moving fields, this is simply not the case. I really wouldn't hold your breath on an email response, or judge people based on it's lack, or you may be very, very disappointed! lol!...

This isn't a personal thing or character issue, <smile> it's just that people really have quite a lot to do and responses to email (especially ones with no questions) probably aren't the highest priority on the list.

Does this make people bad? Most certainly not in my opinion! <smile> Many are just pressed for time...

This is pretty obvious, is it not?...

Anyway, have a nice evening!...

Smiles,

Cara  :)


On Nov 8, 2007, at 5:02 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:

There is no excuse for not answering e-mails no matter the company or status, bug fixes or not. If you submit a e-mail that is valid, understandable and related to a issue, problem or praise. The proper thing at a minimum is to respond. Trust me that accessibility e-mail address is not the forum that the developers are reading. Not responding to e-mails is ridiculous
On Nov 8, 2007, at 5:37 PM, David Poehlman wrote:

If you were sitting in theire seat and had a choice of responding to messages all day or fixing bugs, what would you do?

On Nov 8, 2007, at 5:16 PM, Dan Keys wrote:

Hello Rich and list,
I'd like to make an obxervation regarding my experiences with Apple's Accessibility Group.
Never in the numerous times that I've written to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
have I ever got a responce. It would be better for someone to respond to email, than to never respond. I know that a few people have received replies from Apple's Accessibility group, but I sure never have. It kind of gives the appearance that they don't want anything to do with the customers who use Apple's products, in particular, VoiceOver or any other accessibility applications.




On Nov 8, 2007, at 1:53 PM, Rich Caloggero wrote:

I want to file a bug / suggestion with Apple, specifically related to
Safari, VoiceOver, and Webkit. Should I simply send eMail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], or should I goto the webkit.org site and use their
bug tracking system?

I guess what I'm really asking is: which software is controling the behavior I see with respect to VoiceOver and the web (Safari, Webkit, or VoiceOver)? I assume that there is no simple answer to this question, and that to some
extent all three are involved.

A related question: if I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], are there guidelines or a certain form the message must follow, aside from the usual: include specific version numbers of all components, provide test cases, be clear about what the problem is, and provide clear steps to reproduce?

Thanx much in advance.

-- Rich



















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