Josh, thanks for this note. I was under the erroneous
understanding that one couldn't use the find functions such as VO
command H for headings in anything but DOM mode, but obviously, and to
my delight, I can! woohoo!
Again, proving my point here, that good podcast / article material
is to be had here! lol! Are you catching my theme?! <smile>
Thankie and have a nice night! -Am still catching up on hundreds
of emails…
Smiles,
Cara :)
On Apr 14, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
Hi David,
What you're missing is that you don't need to interact with groups
to read them. As you navigate through the page, VoiceOver reads
each group in its entirety when you navigate to it, without
interaction. Let's look at an example.
Go to this link:
http://www.lioncourt.com/2008/04/11/the-mac-cessibility-podcast-1-the-pilot/
In DOM mode, use VO-Command-H to read the heading of the article,
"The Mac-cessibility Podcast #1 - The PIlot".
Arrow to the first paragraph. It takes eleven arrow presses to read
the first paragraph. VO-A only reads a fragment at a time.
Now with Grouped mode.
Use VO-Command-H to reach the same heading. Now use VO-Down arrow
to read down through the article. One key stroke puts you on and
reads the entire first paragraph. One versus eleven key presses.
Guess which is more efficient? *smile* If you want to activate a
link, then you interact with the paragraph and choose the link.
Hope this helps you out. DOM mode is a messy disaster on any
platform.
Josh de Lioncourt
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On 14 Apr, 2008, at 9:44 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
Ok Josh, which would you rather do, hae to interact with something
every time you want to read it or just read or skip it? With
grouped mode, I have to use the poor group constructs to look over
the page and pickthe best one and this after the page loads slowly
and I've gone through the tedium of navigating the page with vo.
In either mode, I can tab throuh the page, get lists of links, find
stuff by eement type and jump through elements I think I cn do this
in group mode anyway. In any event, when I am in dom mode and find
something I want to read, I can just press vo-a and begin reading
and yes, it won't read the whole thing, but neither do I have to
open and close groups. What am I missing?
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