When this issue was raised, no one was targetted but when someone responds, 
well, they get responded to so here goes.

You may be the brightest person in the world but the post contained more 
than one inflamatory word or I wouldn't have flagged it.  I don't think the 
list should go on about this except to keep this guide in mind when posting. 
People are watching.  People are here to get and give help and new people 
are coming in all the time.  It may be hard at times, but we really do have 
to try a little to put ourselves in the shoes we really do not know.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "VaShaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by 
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: Comments on Voice Over


Maybe this will end it. I don't care about a curse word or two. If
someone thinks I'm unintellagent or anything but because the word ass
was used then that's their problem. I mean I would never repeat it in
a interview or something like that. Man go after the guy who wrote the
post instead of trying to get me to understand that somehow I've made
this public mistake by saying a stupid word. I've seen, heard and felt
worse.
On May 21, 2008, at 6:12 PM, David Poehlman wrote:

> you don't know that someone or some ones from afb are not monitoring
> the
> list.  it is publicly archived for all to google.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "VaShaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS
> X by
> theblind" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 5:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Comments on Voice Over
>
>
> Dude no one is actually talking to AFB on this list. If I were I
> wouldn't have told him the Mac would kick his butt, I would have
> showed him. Besides that I understand your point and it is well taken.
> On May 21, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>
>> Pretty simple. In lieu of compelling evidence or solid logical
>> proof, the argument goes to the articulate. Profane language is
>> customarily the antithesis of lucid debate and it is often assumed
>> to be a last gasp technique in the same class as bullying and
>> shouting. So if you want to stack the deck against yourself and your
>> viewpoint, feel free to spout a blue streak. If you want to win even
>> if your facts are a bit shaky then be professional or even funny.
>> I'd much rather consider a funny wrong viewpoint than a profane
>> right one.
>>
>> Just my experience of about, oh, 20 years or so of email, USENet,
>> bulletin boards and such and the joys of flamewars thereof.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> James Austin wrote:
>>> Good point David. If we use language such as I have seen on some
>>> posts, then it goes some way to proving the reviewers'  stance - if
>>> Mac folks resort to bad language, then VO cannot be as good as they
>>> are claiming because they are littering their arguments with such
>>> language as opposed to pointing out where VO is more u useful to us
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> Just my point of view - sorry for any offense caused
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> james
>>
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>
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