OK Will try this again.
Olivia
On Sep 19, 2008, at 1:50 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
Olivia, you need to press VO+shift+spacebar to perform the first
click in the drag/drop operation.
On Sep 19, 2008, at 1:33 AM, UCLA Bruins Fan wrote:
When I try to drag and drop, VO says "no row sellected" when I use
VO shift space. What am I doing wrong?
I have interacted with the songs table in Itunes, moved the mouse
to the desired item, but when I do VO shift Space, I am told no row
is selected.
How can I get this to work correctly?
Olivia
On Sep 15, 2008, at 6:52 PM, Esther wrote:
Hi Olivia,
On Sep 15, 2008, at 3:27 PM, UCLA Bruins Fan wrote:
how do you drag and drop with VO?
Olivia
This was included in a summary post on the Nano 4G that I tried
to make to the list yesterday, but which was rejected as being too
long. I'll try to split this up and take out the bits that were
covered in previous list posts so that I can make the post
restriction limits. The instructions for using VoiceOver drag and
drop are given at the http://lioncourt.com site, as Josh has
previously posted, and also at Shaun's http://numpadplus.com web
site as an audio podcast. The basic actions are moving your mouse
to your VoiceOver focus at the target selection (VO-Command-F5),
starting/completing the drag and drop with VO-Command-Shift-Space,
and in between toggling off cursor tracking with VO-Shift-F3. So
you start at your selection at point A, move your mouse there,
start the drag and drop, turn off cursor tracking, navigate to
your drop location at point B, move your mouse cursor there,
complete the drop, turn cursor tracking back on. Same command is
used to begin and end the drag-and-drop:
VO-Command-Shift-Space. Navigation can be with arrow keys or
anything else, in general. However, I think that doing a drag and
drop out side of a simple list is susceptible to the same sort of
quirks people found using copy and paste in Finder in different
view modes, which is why this seems more complicated. Just my
thoughts.
Here's the excerpt from my instructions. You don't have to create
a folder for your playlists, however, checking that you can drag
and drop playlists into a folder in the Source Table is a good way
of checking that you'll be able to drag and drop them onto an iPod
without having to actually attach the iPod to practice (and
possibly miss). It's also useful because folders are placed
before smart playlists and regular playlists in the Source Table,
so it's a shorter disttance to move your focu from the a playlist
in the folder to the iPod device. This will work for any iPod --
not just the Nano 4G.
<begin excerpt>
Create a folder called "iPod Playlists" in the source list, and
use VoiceOver's drag and drop to move one or more playlists into
the folder. The action is exactly the same as what you will
perform when you drag and drop playlists onto the iPod. Music and
audiobook tracks or playlists dropped onto the iPod this way will
update the iPod's library database
1. Navigate (tab or VO-right arrow) to the Source Table in iTunes
and interact (VO-down-arrow)
2. Create a folder named "iPod Playlists" either by going to the
File menu on the iTunes menu bar (VO-M to go to menu bar; press
"F" to go to the File menu) and arrowing down to "New Folder", or
by using the Command-Shift-Option-N shortcut to create a new
folder. A dialog window called "Name Playlist" will appear
prompting you to type a name for the folder to replace the default
name of "untitled folder". Press return to create a folder, or
escape to cancel (or VO-right to the buttons for "Cancel" and
"Create" and make your selection with VO-space).
3. Focus will be in the Source Table. Move your target playlist
to the "iPod Playlists" with VoiceOver drag and drop.
3a. Navigate (with arrow keys or by typing the first letters of
the playlist name) to (one of) the playlist(s) you want to use for
manual transfer by dragging to your iPod.
3b. Press VO-Command-F5 to move your mouse cursor to your
VoiceOver cursor (if you don't have Mouse Cursor tracking
VoiceOver Cursor).(Optionally check your mouse cursor poistion
with VO-F5 issued twice)
3c. Use VO-Command-Shift-Space to begin the drag and drop. You'll
hear a small click for the press.
3d. Turn off cursor tracking with VO-Shift-F3
3e. VO-keys Up Arrow to navigate to the "iPod Playlists" folder.
This is where you want to drop the playlist.
3f. Press VO-Command-F5 to move your mouse cursor to your
VoiceOver cursor (drop location).
3g. Use VO-Command-Shift-Space to complete the "Drop" of the
playlist onto the "iPod Playlists" folder
3h. Turn cursor tracking back on again with VO-Shift-F3.
4. If you have successfully done a drag and drop of the playlist
to the "iPod Playlists" folder, you will see the playlist when you
expand the folder (VO-backslash) and then VO-down.
5. If drag and drop worked to move the playlist to your "iPod
Playlists" folder, repeat steps 3a through 3h replacing the "iPod
Playlists" folder target with the iPod Nano 4G. These
instructions were layed out in two steps because: a) if you drag
and drop to the folder without problems you will be able to drag
and drop to the iPod without problems, and b) if you decide to
autosync playlists it is still much easier to have the playlists
you want to check groupsed close to the iPod nano.
6. Check the (manually synced) contents by expanding the iPod nano
4G device (VO-backslash). You should see the iPod's library
playlists listed below the device.
<end excerpt>
Cheers,
Esther
Scott Howell
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