Hi Marty,

There are a couple of places you can get the VoiceOver Getting Started
Guides for Leopard depending on the format you want.  Greg Kearney
made early copies available at:

http://www.cucat.org/books/vogs/vogs.php

(Daisy, Grade 2 Braille, PDF, single large MP3, etc.)

The Apple Downloads site is newer and has some other formats, including
podcast by Chapter:

http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html

I'm pasting in the relevant description from the Apple page:

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Available Formats
You can download the “VoiceOver Getting Started” manual in tagged PDF format (tags enhance navigation when using a screen reader in Windows), a .brf electronic braille file (40 Characters per Line, 25 Lines per page, Interpoint), or as an audio recording in MPEG-4 audio (.m4a) format.

You can play these audio recordings in iTunes for Mac and Windows and on iPod and iPhone. You can also subscribe to the recordings as a podcast. Or, using the following links, you can download individual chapters or all of the chapters at once as a single, compressed ZIP file. We recommend that you download using a high-speed broadband Internet connection.

        • VoiceOver Contents (10:39, 12.4MB)
        • Chapter 1 (9:02, 11.1MB)
        • Chapter 2 (9:07, 11.1MB)
        • Chapter 3 (10:21, 12MB)
        • Chapter 4 (24:15, 28.2MB)
        • Chapter 5 (22:17, 26.8MB)
        • Chapter 6 (28:53, 35.1MB)
        • Chapter 7 (25:53, 32.2MB)
        • Chapter 8 (17:25, 21.2MB)
        • Chapter 9 (10:37, 13.1MB)
        • Chapter 10 (17:38, 21.7MB)
        • Appendix (15:11, 18.3MB)
        • ZIP File of All Chapters (239.3MB)
If you read American English Braille but don’t have an embosser available locally, Apple can emboss a hardbound copy of “VoiceOver Getting Started” for you. Call 1-800-275-2273 and press 1. The fee is $29.99 and shipping is free worldwide. Be sure to indicate which version of the manual you want: Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard or Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger.

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They also make the podcasts available through the iTunes Store:

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=289530738

Using this link (clicking it in Safari) will open up the iTunes Store at the podcast page for the VoiceOver Getting Started Guides in MP3 format. You can get these individually by Chapter or Subscribe to these as iPod podcasts. In the Songs table, interacting (VO-keys-Shift- Down Arrow, where VO-keys means holding down the Control and Option keys) and then navigating to with VO-keys-Right Arrow to the "Free" column for price will let you get each episode. Route your Mouse to your VoiceOver Cursor with VO-keys-Command-F5, then "click" either with VO-keys-Shift-Space or by pressing a button on your Mouse to start down-loading the episodes. You can VO-keys-down-arrow to the next episode and get that, too. In iTunes, these episodes will show up in your Podcasts directory. Stop interacting (VO-keys-Shift-Up Arrow) with the Songs table and use VO-keys-Right arrow to navigate to the Sources Table of iTunes. Interact (VO-keys-Shift-Down Arrow) and Navigate to the Podcasts playlist by using VO-keys-Up Arrow or by typing "p o d". Stop interacting (VO-keys-Shift Up Arrow) and VO-keys- Right Arrow to the Songs table then interact (VO-keys Shift down arrow). If this is your first podcast download you will be on the row for the VoiceOver Getting Started podcasts. You will need to expand the podcast with VO-keys-Backslash (where Backslash is the key at the far right of the keyboard below the delete key and above the return key). VO-keys down arrow to any episode and press return to play. Pressing space bar will pause and then resume playback. Your position will be remembered when you return to play each episode, even if you quit iTunes.

Use the formats you feel most most comfortable with.

I actually prefer to use the PDF files with Preview, because I can read them much faster with the system voice, and I can set bookmarks for locations that I want to specially note. Then when I go back to Preview, I can go to the Bookmarks menu (VO-keys-M, then press "B" and arrow down to find your bookmarks). Pressing a bookmark will automatically open up the document I marked and go to the bookmarked location -- I don't even need to find the documents separately in Finder. These tips are all mentioned at Tim Kilburn's VoiceOver pages that I pointed you to earlier:

http://homepage.mac.com/kilburns/voiceover/

If you download files from the Web with Safari, navigate to the link with VoiceOver (you can use the link chooser menu to find the link on the page -- VO-keys+U and then type some letters of the link name; use VO-space to select the entry you want). Route your mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor with VO-keys-Command-F5 and hold down the Control key while you click a mouse button or trackpad button. Choose the "Download linked file" option.



HTH



Cheers,



Esther








On Sep 25, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Marty Rimpau wrote:

Hi all, I tried going to Josh Lioncourt's site, and couldn't figure it
out, and went to the podcast link, but there's nowhere to download any
of the podcasts as far as I know, and internet explorer 6 with windows
98 se doesn't work with rss, so how can I get a copy of the getting
started with leopard podcast mentioned in the top tech tidbits news
letter, for future reference, and thanks in advance for any help.

Marty





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