Hi Esther, I'll try your suggestion, but what happens is that I change the 
tpe to audiobook and still only find the audiobooks in music and when I look 
at them, they changes are not saved.

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From: "Esther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by 
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Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: New iTunes 8 Features for Audiobooks [was Re: another 
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Hi David,

Where do the changes not "stick"?  Is this where the Nano Updates (if
the changes were not present when the first sync was made)?  In that
case I would try forcing a change by adding  something different to
the file -- it could just be in the "Comment" field, or tack on a
hyphen to the end of the Book title name.

Cheers,

Esther

On Sep 26, 2008, at 3:27 PM, David Poehlman wrote:

> Hi ester,
>
> I tried this but when I went back to look, the changes did not stick.
>
> On Sep 26, 2008, at 8:58 PM, Esther wrote:
>
> Hi Jeff, Simon, and Others,
>
> Jeff asked about putting his imported audio book tracks into the
> Audiobooks category of iTunes. Simon is quite right in his
> explanation that, until now, only certain files, such as audio books
> purchased from Audible.com or from the iTunes Store, would appear
> under the Audiobooks category of iTunes (and hence, in this category
> on the iPod).
>
> However, there is a new feature of iTunes 8 that will allow you to
> move imported audio book tracks that you have ripped from CDs or
> which were MP3 files added to your library, into the Audiobooks
> section of iTunes and keep them separate from your Music library.
> This involves editing your selected tracks with the "Get
> Info" (Command-I) command, and changing the value of a new popup
> button for "Media Kind" from its default value of "Music" to
> "Audiobooks".  When you apply this change, your selected tracks will
> automatically be moved from "Music"  in your Source list to
> "Audiobooks".  The corresponding tracks on your iPod will also be
> shifted from the "Music" menu entry to "Audiobooks" the next time
> you sync your iPod, and the changes to the iTunes database are read.
>
> The easy way to apply this change is to edit multiple tracks at once
> with "Get Info".  Editing multiple tracks has also been given new
> options in iTunes 8 to make the editing process easier. I'll
> describe how to change these settings, and then make suggestions for
> a few other things you may want to check or amend while you are
> using 'Get Info" that can help keep your library better organized.
>
> 1. Start iTunes, and navigate (with VO-right arrow) to the Sources
> Table, then interact (VO-Shift-Down Arrow)
> 2. Navigate to "Music"  (by pressing the first few letters "M U" or
> by using VO-down arrow or up arrow).
> 3. Stop interacting (VO-Shift Up Arrow)
> 4. Navigate to the "Text List" button with VO-left arrow (four
> times) and press this button (VO-space) to ensure that you are in
> list view mode. (You can skip this step if you have issued this
> command before and know that a list of your tracks -- rather than
> albums -- will be displayed in the Songs Table.  There is also a
> keyboard shortcut, Command-Option-3, to set your View to list mode.)
> 5. Navigate to the "Search Text Field" (VO-right arrow  from the
> "Text List" button, or VO-left arrow from the "Sources Table")
> 6. Type in the name of your audio book and press return
> 7. Navigate to the Songs Table (VO-right arrow) and interact (VO-
> Shift-Down Arrow)
> 8. Select all tracks (Command-A)
> 9. Get Info (Command-I)
> 10. A dialog window will appear asking you if you are sure you want
> to edit multiple items.  Press return to indicate that you do.
> 11. A dialog window will appear for Multiple Item Information. In
> iTunes 8 you will hear a summary announcement of the items you can
> edit for your entry tab setting, The first time you use Get Info
> this will be the Info tab for Album, Artist, Composer, and other
> details.  This is a great place to clean up the entries for your
> iTunes library to ensure that Artist names have the same spelling
> and that consistent naming was used for the audio book titles on
> different CDs.  However, we won't use this tab to change your audio
> book status.
> 12. Use item chooser (VO-I) and type in "tab".  You'll get a list of
> the 4 available tabs under the Get Info menu, including your current
> tab.  VO-Down Arrow to the Options tab and select it (VO-space or
> return)
> 13. Navigate (VO-Right Arrow) past "Media Kind" to its popup
> button.  Change this (VO-space) from "Music" to "Audiobook"
> 14. Continue to navigate with VO-Right Arrow past "Remember
> Position" to its popup button.  Change this (VO-Space) to "Yes"
> 15. Continue to navigate with VO-Right Arrow past "Skip when
> Shuffling" to its popup button.  Change this (VO-Space) to "Yes"
> 16. You can VO-Right Arrow through the entire Options menus.  You'll
> hear "checked check box" beside every entry that you flagged to
> change,
> so you can review your selections.  The "Remember Position" option
> will bookmark the last played position.  The "Skip when Shuffling"
> option will keep these tracks from being mixed in with music track
> playback.  Either press return or navigate to the "OK" button and
> press it (VO-Space) to register your changes.
>
> Other tips:  If you need to get back to a dialog window from the
> main iTunes window, or vice-versa, bring up the Window Chooser menu
> with VO-F2 (issued twice).  There are tips in the archives about the
> "Make Bookmarkable" AppleScript.  This is a handier way to put audio
> cd tracks that you rip from CDs into the Audiobook menu, and you can
> even set up a keyboard shortcut for it, but the present method will
> work in general.
> An even better way to select your albums, and tracks is to use the
> File Browser menu in iTunes, which you can toggle on and off with
> Command-B.  I haven't described it here, because it would require
> different navigation instructions, and would also require me to make
> assumptions about how your tracks have been tagged.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
>
>
> On Sep 26, 2008, at 8:18 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote:
>
>> Geoff,
>>
>> Yes, you should be able to do this. Unless Itunes recognises the
>> book you are importing as an audiobook of a certain format like AAC
>> which is the format audible.com uses, it will place it in the music
>> folder with all your songs. This is my understanding and experience
>> so far. I think there may be a setting in the import menu of Itunes
>> to set the import format to AAC but you will have to check that
>> out. THis setting has to be chosen I think every time you import
>> your books because you may not wish to use this format for
>> importing music in between.
>>
>> First, find your book in the music folder. If you remember the
>> title of the book file you have imported, you can interact with the
>> song list in the music folder and type a few letters in the name
>> column of the table which might make it faster for you to locate
>> it. Once you have found it and VO is on the title, press the vo
>> +shift+m for the contextual menu. From this menu choose add to
>> playlist submenu, expand it with right arrow and start typing the
>> name of your audio books folder after which you should find it.
>> Press enter on it and your book will be added to your audio books
>> folder you have created. Remember that the book file will still
>> remain in your music folder so when you sink it with your ipod, it
>> will still be among your songs. However, it will also be in your
>> audiobooks playlist so that you can find it more easily. Removing
>> your book file from the music folder will probably remove it
>> altogether from Itunes.
>>
>> Hope this will help. Simon
>> On 26 Sep 2008, at 15:36, jeffrey greene wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>> Ok, well i imported some of my audio books into itunes. For some
>>> reason they went into the main music library instead of audio
>>> books. I didn't think this would be an issue and i made an audio
>>> books playlist. But, when syncing my music playlist and audio
>>> books playlist to my ipod the music and books all end up in the
>>> same folder mixed together. Is there a way i can move my audio
>>> books from music library to audio books in itunes, and hopefully
>>> keep audio books and music separate on my ipod?
>>> Thanks, Jeff Greene
>>>
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