David, first the two telephone jacks are one in and one out if you will. One goes from the wall to the UPS and the other goes from the UPS to an internal modem if you have one or a fax machine etc. Sometimes UPS units will actually use a jack that will accommodate either the telephone jack which is called an RJ11 or a network plug which is a RJ45. The way the computer should be connected is the UPS plugs into the wall outlet and the computer plugs into one of the four outlets in the rear of your UPS. The other plug that goes from your computer to the usb port on your computer is the communications cable. It's generally got a RJ45 on the end that connects to the UPS and the other a male USB connector. Does this help?

On Nov 15, 2008, at 5:29 PM, David Truong wrote:

Hi Scott,

Thanks for the excellent explanation. My APC UPSES are about 5 years old. I can only feel 4 sockets on the back of this unit. There are 3 sockets which look like phone jacks with one of them being a bigger socket which is
where I put the cable connecting my UPS to the PC.  Then the other two
sockets which look like phone jacks, they are smaller but I don't know what they are used for. Then there is the socket where a power cable goes to. At the moment I have a AC Power cable going from a PowerPoint to this socket on my UPS. If I read your message correctly, this is not how it should be? I should have a power connection from the UPS to my PC and then this PC in turn should be on AC power via a power cable going to a PowerPoint from my PC? In other words, I should have my PC being powered by a AC power cable
going from a PowerPoint to my PC.  Then I should have a power Cable
connecting my UPS to my PC? Thanks again for all of your help with this.
I'm just trying to understand how this all works.

David Truong

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David, you are correct that there is a usb cable. THis cable only
provides a link between the UPS and the computer for the purposes of
communication, this cable does not carry power. The UPS has a number
of power outlets which you would plug your Mac into and other devices.
Some plugs are not active when the UPS is on battery power and some
are so it is important you know which outlets to plug your machine into.
I assume you know a UPS really is nothing more than a glorified
inverter. It takes power from one or more batteries which are
generally Lead-Acid 7 amphere-hour or greater battery packs and the
inverter provides the 120V AC current your computer requires to
operate. The usb cable sends the appropriate signals to the computer
regarding the health of the batteries, whether or not the UPS is
receiving power from the wall or has switched to battery operation ,
etc. It's up to the computer as to what it does with this information.
You can configure your Mac to do a number of things such as shutdown
when the battery reaches a certain level such as if it reaches 25
percent of it's capacity etc. I would never recommend running the
battery down below 25 percent or even below 30 percent. It's actually
best to either shut things down yourself or make sure the machine is
configured to shut itself down in sufficient time to save all data and
perform a clean shutdown.

hth

On Nov 14, 2008, at 11:53 PM, David Truong wrote:

Hi Scott,

So with your APC units, you have a cable from APC UPS to USB of your
pc and
then the UPS gets it's power from a power cable coming from a wall
outlet
PowerPoint?  If that is the case, how does the battery power the pc
when the
actual ac power goes off?  Does it do this through the USB port?
Thanks in
advance,

David Truong

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I have a ups on every machine in the house. Reason being is I'd rather
spend the little bit of money for piece of mind. They offer the
ability to shut the machine down which might just save you data loss
and I know from experience what a drag that can be. Now, I use APC and
most all APC models I'm aware of will work fine without the optional
software. Just plug them into the usb port and the Mac will quietly
recognize and work with it. you'll know it's detected as you'lll get
some other options in Energy preferences as well as if you pull the
plug on the ups, you'll get a message from the Mac about the loss of
ac power.
On Nov 13, 2008, at 7:20 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hi everyone!

I've heard of people using these devices with Mac's and it makes
sense so here's the question, will the Mac automatically detect the
UPS when its plugged in? If anyone is using one of these with your
Mac then what experience have you had with the device, did you get a
particular model because of your Mac and software compatibility
issues, assuming of course that software of some description is used
with these things.


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