Hi,
This is merely the first of five labs that are planned for the next
five years. Our budget is $6000 per lab and we here really believe in
the Apple Accessibility Model. We can not even afford Mac Mini's which
cost $250 in my area and that is without the keyboards and mice/
screens. We regret being both short on volunteers and monney at the
moment.
Our goals are to build labs for students who are visually impaired in
countries where VIPs are looked down upon and are low in society.
Through the use of technology we hope to level the playing field.
Thanks,
Alex,
On 29-Jan-09, at 11:24 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
Just saying that you might be getting into a bad spot trying to
share one lisc. with 50 clients.
So what are your costs and budget? What are your goals? Can you go
with used hardware? A refurbished mini from Apple is $500 so that
brings you to $25K in hardware at the desktop. If you can go with G4
Minis you can drop the price even further. A G4 Mini with 1.4Ghz
processor can be had for about $300 ($15K of hardware). I don't know
but I have to imagine thats starting to get close to your thin
client cost. As an education resource with a volume purchase you
might be able to do some deals on any hardware or software needed.
Hope this helps.
CB
Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
It is not arguably for a comercial purpose
Honestly, I have arguably no other alternative but to abandon VO
all together, and I am not going to do that. We need over 6000$
more just to get this off the ground as I have preposed, and we are
not a paid team of staff, nor is our budget overfunded, but
underfunded.
I appologize, but I don't see what else can be done.
Thanks,
Alex,
On 29-Jan-09, at 7:25 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
Yup, this is more typical. I know with Citrix servers many of the
licenses had to be special multi-seat versions. At the same time,
using this for education would probably get you a good discount in
addition to the volume license discount. In particular is this
clause in their license agreement:
You may use the programs and manuals on a single computer and copy
the programs for back up purposes in support of your use of the
programs on a single computer, provided all copyright and other
proprietary notices are included on such copy, and true and
accurate records of such copy are kept. The term "Use", used
above, shall not include the right to replicate, redistribute,
broadcast or perform in public the sound files generated by the
ACAPELA Text-to-speech technologies for commercial purposes. This
specific type of use of ACAPELA TTS technology is subject to a
separate licensing agreement.
I think they could reasonably argue that you're not using it on
just one computer and/or you are redistributing/broadcasting (to
your thin clients) the audio generated by the software.
CB
E.J. Zufelt wrote:
I'm not familiar with the voices that you're using. But I'd read
the lisence carefully, I bet that it is a per seat / user
lisence, not a per computer lisence.
Everett
On 29-Jan-09, at 12:25 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
No, because it is on one Mac, not fifty.
Thanks,
Alex,
On 28-Jan-09, at 8:19 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:
Good evening,
Wouldn't you still need 50 lisences if the voice was being used
by 50 users?
Everett
On 29-Jan-09, at 12:02 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
The IBM's use Ubuntu via the LTSP project. It is cheaper than
putting 50+ Mac Mini's because the maintance would be high.
Also, we are planning to buy one lisence of Infovox's Spanish
Voice for use by all the students.
Thanks,
Alex,
On 28-Jan-09, at 8:13 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
I haven't seen a Citrix-like solution for the Mac but I've
been out of the enterprise space for some time. Are you sure
it will be a lower cost than just putting 50 Mac Minis
without screens in place? How do the thin clients work? You
might be dependent on IBM for a solution since it's their
clients that need to share to the Mac server.
CB
Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
I am looking at setting up a computer lab for Visually
Impaired students. It is Voiceover/Linux Driven, and any
assistance is greatly appreciated. A list of hardware i below:
50+ IBM Thin Clients
1 network server (possibly virtual)
1 Mac Pro with eight cores and 16 GB RAM.
Now my question is that I need to setup virtual sessesions
from each TC to the Mac to use Voiceover. The problem is
that the only software that will do that is FreeNX which
isn't available for the Mac yet. Is there any solutions.
FreeNX will include support for Mac in version 4.0, but in
the meantime I would appreciate any free solutions.
Thanks,
Alex,
