Randomthots wrote:



People keep demanding that OOo developers drop everything and write an email client,


I haven't heard anyone *demanding* anything... except you that is. Demanding that we not even talk about the possibility.

We are talking about the possibility. The problem is that you don't like the answer that you're getting.

otherwise they won't switch, and not only that, they don't know anyone else who will switch either.


You're just making that part up.

No. Look at the post I responded to.

Jumping up and down and demanding


You again. The jumping up and down and demanding.

Whatever. I'm just pointing out why it's not going to happen.

*or* *else* will get you no-where fast.


Point to any post on this forum like that.

Selective blindness. Read over the thread again.

Why can't people get over themselves and use an existing application.


Without an email/pim component many will do just that. It's called MSO. Is that what you really want?

Um. I think you're just re-using the arguement that you were claiming hasn't been used.
Maybe forget about reading the thread. Read your own post.

Don't like Evolution? Fine. Test it. Submit bug reports. Hassle the developers to hurry up with their Windows port. Do you really think that you're going to get a better product in less time by insisting that OOo include every function under the sun?


Reductio ad absurdum. I have yet to hear a call for a Tetris component, music composition, or audio editing, for instance. Last I checked those *are" functions and they *are* under the sun.

Oh wow. The garbage some people post when they've had their buttons pushed :)

You're not. You're just making noise


What's that buzzing from down under?

See above comment. Maybe you should take a deep breath and walk around your bedroom a couple of times before posting again?

and demonstrating that you don't have a grasp on how to use open source software. Use the tools that are already available. If there is a problem / lack of features / whatever, then submit bugs / features requests against that existing product. Duplication is a waste of resources,


Sourceforge.net lists 105,746 active projects. A good case could be made that open-source development is the most unfocused, undisciplined, and wasteful phenomenon in the history of software. Starting "yet another" project is practically a revered tradition, so *suggesting* that OOo should somehow integrate an email/calendar/pim, preferably by cooperating with the Mozilla project, is actually quite conservative.

You're changing your arguement in mid-flight. You start out by saying that OOo developers should write their own mail client because it's a 'revered tradition', and immediately switch to saying that an existing email client be integrated. That's my arguement ... that we should focus on existing tools. Has logic finally sunk in?

and as we've already agreed, the functionality that you're after is non-trivial and will take a long time to complete. Better help out on that Windows port of Evolution.


How about we get a bunch of developers from other similar projects together for that? Sourceforge lists 80 projects just under the rubric of "To-Do Lists", 306 under "Office Suites", 149 under "Project Management", 901 under "Scheduling", and 89 under "Time Tracking". Granted that some projects are cross-listed and many others inhabit peripheral niches, that is still a h*** of a lot of duplication. What's that you were saying about understanding how open-source software works?

Now the arguement's completely come off the rails :) I'll let you have another attempt at whatever this point was supposed to be before commenting ...

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