Jallan wrote:
Jonathon Blake wrote:

Robin wrote:

Reveal codes are better for the one time only people


Reveal codes are for the grossly incompetent person who refuses to
learn to use their tools  properly.


I think it is more often the case that people honestly have difficulty in understanding and believing that there are no codes, that instead of a text stream with formatting codes as in NROFF, WordStar, Word Perfect, HTML, or PCL, that instead MS Word and OOo Writer internally have paragraph objects with attributes and links, that there really are no formatting codes involved internally.

Of course, with the wrong model in mind, they then have difficulty in understanding what might be at fault when things go wrong, understandably, considering the error in their understanding, wishing that they had a reveal codes mode to allow them to see what is really happening underneath.

Now it might be possible to have a "reveal source code mode" where OOo Write automatically saves when it is invoked, then brings up windows showing the associated source code for whatever section of the document one is looking at. Make a change in the document, the source code windows are greyed as no longer in synch. When you select them again, the document is resaved and again the source code windows are updated.

(You would also be able to edit the source code in these windows and save the module ... very much at your own risk.)

But, however nice that would be, there are updates and changes far more urgently needed by more users of OpenOffice.org then a full debugger of this kind. (But perhaps someone will start a separate project: an OpenDocument editor comparable to many HTML editors.)

Jallan

As suggested, I am responding directly to the discuss group.

This puts my feelings about reveal codes in words that I couldn't come up with.

I have tried to create styles (which was easy in WP) but I keep getting lost. If I want to make some simple changes, RC would allow me to do this in a very quick and efficient way. Taking the time to edit a style and apply it would take more time.

I have had the same situation where I go to change something into BOLD or underline and find that it doesn't show up as expected. Multiple attempts later I finally get it. This has happened in WP, Word and OOo. This is below the level of a style but with RC, I could find where the problem was and insert the cursor to the exact point necessary to get around the problem. Or even to delete the code that was causing the problem.

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Robin Laing

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