Howdy, hakkers! I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-04-01 and that the minutes are posted. They are visible on the web at https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-4-1. I've also included them in this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting |time=7PM |date=2014-04-01 |venue=48 South Summit |next=Meetings/2014-4-8 |previous=Meetings/2014-3-25 }} * '''Note Taker:''' Craig * '''Moderator:''' Torrie == Introduction and Names == *Chris – Swipe swipieees *Andrew – Send emails to people who want to be members *Phillip – Just came for the root beer *Chris – acquired a new battery pack *Martha – wants a workbench *Alex – Found out getting a new mattress is completely overrated *Matt – Fix legacy code *Dave – videographer *Craig –Takes pills to promote note-taking *Torrie – Prototype circuits *Devin – is NOT a beer fairy *Mike – Fixes cielings == Announcements == *Phillip – another makerfaire in Kent on the 24th (Thursday 12-4) at the KSU Library, Is looking for support *Alex – **Notacon happening in two weeks, **April 9th at 8pm is the mesh networking talk here at SynHak **April 23rd – Shop safety with Devin *Mike - No longer gaping hole in the ceiling of the craft room *Torrie – Cleveland minimakerfaire was last weekend, learned we need better planning, *Also that weekend, space cleanup, documented on te build list *Chris – Champions now have official mailing list, for anyone to sent items to: champi...@synhak.org *Chris – Electric moped!, still need spokes == Membership == *Robert Rybicki *Matt Winger *Matthew Stevic None are present tonight, They will be contacted == Financial Report == Dues are Due, only 4 or 5 have paid for April *Assets: 18729.62 *Liabilities: 2866.26 *Rent is paid for the month *Devin – automated billing emails? *Torrie - There on the way, but currently down == Proposals == *Phillip wants a key: **Why? To open the building and monitor Friday nights/ never stand out in the cold again / Access to a bathroom in Akron ***Alex – Give him a key ***Mike – Are you going to rob us? ****No I will not take the furnace ***Alex – you want Friday’s as open hours? 6pm to 10pm Phillip will be here to open the space Fridays from now on (for the foreseeable future) '''Consensed''' *Devin – about requiring a 2nd/2nd for proposals &attatch copy of formal wording '''Consensed''' *You now require two members in good standing to 2nd your proposal before bringing to the floor. *Dave – Can we make this start today? **It is effective immediately, and not retroactive. *Mike - How do we address a proposal on the floor that may not have enough support? '''De-consensed''' *Andrew – Dangerous to start retroactively changing things *Mike – If we put that barrier back to make things more reasonable, or a proposal to be able to cancel proposals *Devin – agrees with 2nd, proposal to redact, until then we can always just block it *Alex – agrees, no retroactivity, If we want to add on to this in the future we can bring up a new proposal. *Devin – Likes it as is, doesn't want to drag this on another week. *Mike – Should we make another proposal for next week to add to an additive proposal making things retroactive *Mike – agrees to step aside and come back to it in another meeting '''re-consensed''' *Alex – Are the proposals from last week still valid/open? **Yes *Chris – Associate membership? Can this be removed from the proposals page? **Torrie – I will do '''Funding & Building walls:''' Needs consensed floor plan & a BOM *Andy – The $3k to make the walls proposal, where did those numbers come from? *Torrie – home depots website and estimating *Andy – My estimate is around $4,600 *Andrew – What’s relevant fire code? *Dave - The Ohio building code states fire suppression drywall is needed. **citation requested *Becca – even if not required don’t we want it anyway? *Andy – The person at home depot suggested these (fireproof doors), and there is possibility of getting parts cheaper via contractors. *Habitat for Humanity is another possibility *Andrew – Worried about when the insurance inspector come by / can we make our own door to save cost? *Mike – Used doors would considerably reduce that cost *Andy – These are 20-min fire resistant doors specifically certified for this, we would have to look up about other materials involved. *Andy – we need more prices and options to get a plan *Andrew – if we want strips instead of outlets? *Devin dislikes, from a build quality and safety standpoint *Andy – electrical to code, can always plug a strip in if you dare *Extending the machine shop space **Devin – Not being able to work with a 4x8 sheet in that room sucks, can we move the furnace to the machine shop to solve both issues? **Andy – we could put a closet around the furnace *Needs consensed floor plan/BOM **Devin – It would give us the room needed for 4x8 sheets, safely, quickly, and alone. **Andrew – can we solve this by re-arranging? **Phillip –Vertical radial arm saws would fit and be usable in the current space **Devin – Equipment Jenga: roller stands for things are very expensive ($40/ea if bought), and would need them on everything. As for the radial saw – cost prohibitive. **Andy – more space lets us have more things **Chris – We have ventilation existing that would take most dust, keeping from the furnace ***Devin – we have a dust collection system too, can be planned into the building of the walls ***Andy – We can run more ducting if the furnace is moved drastically ***Devin – Moving at all is expensive, having it in the zone of the other furnace would give a large temp shift, we also have a vent where *the furnace is now, and floor drain ***Mike – Don’t think moving it is reasonable Seems like moving the furnace in general is a bad idea. *Heating the machine shop: **Devin – if we changed the ducts for a more efficient output. **Mike – if we encase it we’ll need returns, we also need furnace filters – there almost solid *The wall in general: **Mike – who’s doing the estimates? The heating would be different depending on what type of ceiling / details of the walls (height) **The lower the ceilings the easier to heat, a while ago lofts were mentioned **Devin – we could use beam construction, build like a deck ***More details need to be discussed **Hopefully we can take it all the way to the wall. **Andy we could have a 10’ and add a topper to get the rest of the height later **Devin feels floor to ceiling would be best **Mike – what about 8’ It’s easier. **Chris – construction is difficult, if it’s an 8’ thing to cut 8’ ceiling would be insufficient **Devin – What about the meazzanine over in the meeting area? Could have two floors for meetings / speakers *Devin will take the lead on planning the floorplan *Andy is on pricing / finding an estimate / and more vendors = End of Meeting = _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss