* Andy -yes, no pet doors as of yet, maybe a robot door.
^ I did not say that. I said "Yes, the plans are in my car, I can get them
if you want." I don't remember anything about a pet door.



On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Chris Egeland <ch...@chrisegeland.com>wrote:

>
> On 4/23/2014 2:43 PM, a l wrote:
>
>    * no one wishes to propose to split the member dues/key restrictions
> proposal
>
>  It is unclear if this was consented and if so what the wording of the
> proposal is/was. Could someone who remembers the conversation update the
> minutes?
>
> At last night's meeting, this was discussed, not consented to.  At last
> week's meeting (04-15-2014), this was brought up as a discussion item, not
> a proposal.  As such, last night's discussion (04-22-2014) was, technically
> speaking, the first meeting it was discussed as a proposal.
>
> The proposal in question is available to view here:
> https://synhak.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-April/008175.html
>
> No changes to the wording of this proposal was discussed or agreed to last
> night.  As such, this proposal will undergo the consensus process at next
> week's meeting.
>
>
>  Regarding Hacker grants: Since Torrie proposed this and will not be at
> meetings in the near future could someone who understands her vision please
> answer a few questions I have? The following is the current wording:
> *"I'm proposing that we allocate $5400 of our recent $15k knight
> foundation grant to, each month, give $150 to a hacker with great ideas who
> applies for it "*
>
>  * $5,400 is a lot of money to ear mark for one project with uncertain
> terms. It is in fact 3 years worth(at the proposed 150/mo) of hacker grants
> as well as over 1/3 of our total grant monies. Could we lower this dollar
> amount? perhaps to $1,800 offering 1 years worth of mini-grants instead. We
> can always revisit the idea after one year.
>
>  * What exactly is the application process and constitutes 'great ideas'.
> If two people apply in the same month how do we decide between them? Two in
> the same hour?  If only one person applies does that guarantee them the
> money? What's the application deadline?
>
>  * Do we hand people a check for $150 or refund reciepts?
>
>  * It sounds like this is open to the public, how do we best promote this?
>
>  regards,
> Andrew L
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Omar Rassi <omar.ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Regarding the hacker grants proposal, I have a question for Steve.
>> Steve said, "before we spend any money, we should have a discussion of what
>> we want to do with this, before we start spending it."
>>
>> Isn't that what we're doing with the proposed expenditure on funding
>> mini-hacker grants? By discussing spending money on hacker grants, we are
>> in fact discussing how we're going to spend money. What sort of discussion
>> were you looking to have on this?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Chris Egeland <ch...@chrisegeland.com>wrote:
>>
>>>  The link has been properly updated.
>>>
>>> Here are the minutes:
>>>
>>> {{Infobox_meeting
>>> |time=7PM
>>> |date=$date
>>> |venue=48 South Summit
>>> |next=$next
>>> |previous=$previous
>>> }}
>>>
>>> = Agenda =
>>>
>>> * '''Note Taker:''' MikeG
>>> * '''Moderator:''' Becca
>>>
>>>
>>> == Introduction and Names ==
>>>
>>>  * Round of introductions
>>> ** What is your name?
>>> ** What do you do?
>>> ** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
>>>  * Ed, Robert R's Grampa, Retired Study of Law.
>>> * Jen, Stay at home mom
>>> * Robert, likes to invent
>>> * Becca, frosts cakes,defrosts bread
>>> * Mike, pressed the button
>>> * STeve, brings horribly outdated computers to syhak
>>> * Matt, updates software
>>> * Matt, Deathray enthusiast
>>> * Linda, Librarian, wants her own Makerspace, found out from Clev Pub
>>> Library
>>> * Joe, retired mechanic
>>> * Craig, flips cars
>>> * G, restores bycicles, for kiks
>>> * Andy, computer tomography machines
>>> * Chris, untapps
>>> * Will, gots a new phone
>>> * Philip, takes pictures, wants to start bike refurb service, with MAtt,
>>> G, and Theresa, not for profit, but for fun
>>>
>>>
>>> == Announcements ==
>>> * Mini Maker fair, KSU Library, 12-4pm Thurs
>>> * Informal announcement Akron Mini Maker Faire October 18th  11-4pm
>>> Akron Bublic Library, main branch
>>> * NAMES Convention: MEchanical engineering society, makes working mini
>>> trains, in Michigan
>>> * Shop Safety tomorrow 8pm
>>> ** Closed toed shoes
>>> ** Long sleeve shirt/short sleeve/overshirt
>>> ** long pants
>>> ** stick with cottons
>>> * Matt: may have line on garage toolshop, but in Michigan
>>>
>>>
>>> == Membership ==
>>> * Jen, never considered to be a member, was told Rob couldn't skype into
>>> a meeting, or join via proxy
>>> ** G, can we have special off-tuesday meeting for a non-tuesday enabled
>>> person?
>>> ** Becca, why can't he be interviewed over the phone.
>>> ** Chris E, don't see bylaw restriction, to a non-tues meeting to
>>> address a new member app.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> == Financial Report ==
>>> * Funds in bank:
>>>  none reported
>>>
>>> == Proposals ==
>>>
>>> * no one wishes to propose to split the member dues/key restrictions
>>> proposal
>>>
>>> open: proposals -see proposal page   https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals
>>>
>>> * Hacker Grants
>>> ** Becca- would like to see a proposal that focusses on the greatest
>>> good with the grant money, instead of whittling down until we come up with
>>> a great idea that we don't have money for any more.
>>> ** Matt, Mozilla is broke from funding women programmers
>>> ** Robert's Gpaw- that's the Govt's governance that put a hole in the
>>> bottom of that boat.
>>> ** Steve-before we spend any money, we should have a discussion of what
>>> we want to do with this, before we start spending it.
>>>
>>> * Andy, machine shop walls, still getting quotes for materials, Carter
>>> Lumber was not so helpful as of yet
>>> ** wants to make a trip to Restore for steel firedoors
>>>
>>> ** Chris, do we have a plan of where doors/walls, windows,  -will there
>>> be pet doors?
>>> ** Andy -yes, no pet doors as of yet, maybe a robot door.
>>>
>>> * Roberts Key proposal:
>>> ** will not be here without an adult
>>> ** where to keep key so it's not lost?  maybe get a key lanyard and hang
>>> it up where other keys are kept at home.
>>> ** Robert's key proposal-approved! money accepted by Chris/champion
>>>
>>> == Discussion Items ==
>>>
>>> * Jen -freespace for finding doors?
>>>
>>> * mailing address for Synhak:
>>> <nowiki>SynHak
>>> 12 East Exchange St
>>> 2nd Floor
>>> Akron, OH 44308</nowiki>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/23/2014 9:44 AM, Chris Egeland wrote:
>>>
>>> They were accidentally posted to Meetings/Template instead of the
>>> correct page.  I'm fixing the formatting then posting them on the correct
>>> page.  Give it about 10-20 minutes.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On 4/23/2014 8:51 AM, a l wrote:
>>>
>>> Where are the minutes?
>>>
>>> -Andrew L
>>> On Apr 23, 2014 8:34 AM, "Phong" <ph...@synhak.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ã “ã‚“ã «ã ¡ã ¯, hakkers!
>>>>
>>>> I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-04-22 and that the
>>>> minutes are posted. They are visible on the web at
>>>> https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-4-22. I've also included them in
>>>> this mail for reading at your leisure:
>>>>
>>>> {{Infobox_meeting
>>>> |time=7PM
>>>> |date=2014-04-22
>>>> |venue=48 South Summit
>>>> |next=Meetings/2014-4-29
>>>> |previous=Meetings/2014-4-15
>>>> }}
>>>>
>>>> This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
>>>> [[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how meetings
>>>> future perform, please make any modifications to [[Meetings/Template]]. If
>>>> you would like to propose something at the meeting, send it to
>>>> propos...@synhak.org, or bring it up at a meeting.
>>>>
>>>> = Instructions =
>>>> * Read the instructions out loud for all to comprehend if there are new
>>>> people present.
>>>> * '''Delete these instructions prior to posting completed minutes'''
>>>> * Pick a moderator and note-taker
>>>>
>>>> == Note-taker ==
>>>> * Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
>>>> ** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
>>>> * Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
>>>> * Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the
>>>> appropriate time.
>>>> * Tell treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org if there are new
>>>> members. If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no need to email
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> == Moderator ==
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>>>> * Speak minimally yourself
>>>> * Keep the meeting moving
>>>> * Handle the membership voting process
>>>> * Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this document,
>>>> as the template may occasionally change without warning.
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>>>> to proposals, so that they too may have a say in things.
>>>>
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>>>> * Remain on-topic
>>>> * Remain respectful of other participants
>>>>
>>>> = Agenda =
>>>>
>>>> * '''Note Taker:''' FIXME
>>>> * '''Moderator:''' FIXME
>>>>
>>>> == Introduction and Names ==
>>>>
>>>> * Invite a knowledgeable member to explain what SYNHAK is about, if
>>>> anyone new is present:
>>>> <blockquote>SYNHAK is an infrastructure provider for people who want to
>>>> make things. SYNHAK provides space, tools, and infrastructure to help
>>>> others learn new skills and create cool things. SYNHAK exists through and
>>>> depends on membership dues, donations, and the hard work of individuals
>>>> such as ourselves. Our code of conduct is "Be excellent to each
>>>> other."</blockquote>
>>>> * Round of introductions
>>>> ** What is your name?
>>>> ** What do you do?
>>>> ** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
>>>>
>>>> == Announcements ==
>>>>
>>>> * Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
>>>> * Any happenings that people should be aware of?
>>>>
>>>> == Membership ==
>>>> * Read off any names open for application
>>>> * Anyone eligible should:
>>>> ** Introduce yourself
>>>> ** Answer any questions
>>>> ** Leave the area
>>>> * Members present should reach consensus on whether or not they join
>>>> * Applicants may return
>>>>
>>>> == Financial Report ==
>>>> * Funds in bank:
>>>>
>>>> == Proposals ==
>>>>
>>>> * Check the page at [[Proposals/Open]].
>>>>
>>>> == Discussion Items ==
>>>>
>>>> If an item of discussion drags on too long, further discussion may be
>>>> postponed until after the meeting ends.
>>>>
>>>> During discussion, it is not necessary to write down exactly what each
>>>> person says. Record the topics of discussion, and any items of consensus or
>>>> controversy here. Detailed descriptions of the conversation should go on
>>>> the discuss page for this meeting.
>>>>
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>>>> * Notify treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org about new
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>>>> * Discuss any items for which there was not enough time during the
>>>> meeting
>>>> * Delete this bit of magical text, which lets [[User:Phong]] know that
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