Nothing to speak of in there! (further reading makes me understand the
logging setting needed to be on)
----------------------------
Thanks for these pinpoint things to check.
This is the first time I have been in here as someone else set this up for
us. I think Cody loaded it but didn't get a chance to come back to it as he
got called to Europe for business. Guess Im picking up where we left off...
-----------------
CORBA Configuration not enabled
Is the only thing I see in the Server.log
Everything else is just services starting.
----------------
Timeout was not on.
It is now.
----------------
Log slow pages taking longer than 20 seconds is now enabled
----------------
I will print this out and put it in the bathroom. That way it WILL be read.
----------------
I have fortas adv book. Will put that book under the print out.
----------------
Doug: Great job on pointers again. Thanks for bearing with me.

I agree reboot is almost never the answer but sometimes it's a bandaid where
a tourniquet is needed and you have nothing. Better something than nothing.
Now that I see some of the tools and how they work this may not need
rebooting again!

Still running clean at the moment.

Robert P. Reil
Managing Director,
Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
4292 Country Garden Walk NW
Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
Office 770-974-8851
Fax 770-974-8852
www.motorcyclecarbs.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 12:45 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot

you have some really long running requests.  As I said before, look in
the server log in the cfadmin tool, long running requests are
indicated there.  Look to the files indicated in these entries as
problem spots needing tuning.  SeeFusion is a great tool also
indicating these things.

Also make SURE you have
Timeout Requests after (seconds)
set to on, its typically best practise to have this set to 30 seconds
as a start.
Also make SURE you have
Log slow running requests longer then __ seconds
set to on and set ti to say 20 seconds to start.  If this is not set
to on, the above log will be useless to you as long running requests
will not be logged!

Now, go read up on ColdFusion performance topics.  This is a great
summary blog posting here
http://coolskool.blog-city.com/random_collection_of_cfmx_performance_tuning_
resources.htm
Especially understand the explanations of request timeouts,
simultaneaous threads, and such.  Forta's advanced CF book has
coverage of this topic also FYI.

Your subject line has the word REBOOT in it, hence why we are
responding with much about your system.  To me this appears to be a
ColdFsuin perfomance issue.  You are rebooting the server to try and
attack this issue, which rarely in my experience will.  In most cases,
its bad CF code somewhere that causes issues.


DK

On 7/1/06, Robert Reil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Looks like it wont let go of some requests. And it pegs out JRUN.exe when
> that happens
> ---------------------------------
> I did KILL's to the Running Requests to keep things from hanging
> ---------------------------------
> Using the Counters I found that it takes between
> 900~2,500,000 ms to process a request.
> Once the request que is down to 0~1 it only takes 400~2000ms to process
and
> keeps it under control.
> ---------------------------------
> Just noticed that AVGW.exe was at 50% and has been active all this time
but
> I didn't think it should ever be that high.
> Looking into it I found it to be AntiVirusGrisoftWatch file. I'm removing
it
> and rebooting.
> ---------------------------------
> SeeFusion 3.3:           Server Status          Configuration
> Counters                Debug Output            Stack Trace
> SeeFusion Log
>
> SeeFusion Server Status Help
> Server: rcga01ts01
> Updated         Memory [GC]     Uptime  Request
> Averages:       Last Sec        Last 10 Sec     Last 60 Sec     Since
> Startup         Query
> Averages:       Last Sec        Last 10 Sec     Last 60 Sec     Since
> Startup
> Jun 30, 2006 9:59:04 PM         108m/132m       26:33.9         0, avg 0ms
> 0/sec, avg 0ms  0/sec, avg 0ms  13      0, avg 0ms      0/sec, avg 0ms
> 0/sec, avg 0ms  0
> 8 Running Requests
> Request
> Completed       From    Response        TotalTime       #Queries
> QryTime Longest (or Active) Query
> SQL
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/Mikuni_C6.cfm[Stack][KillStop]
>         193.47.80.89    @--ms   1,485,015ms     --      --ms    --ms,--
rows
>
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/KEIHIN_MAIN_JET_99101-116_68_P4539C76.cfm[Stack][Kil
> lStop]
>         72.30.98.161    @--ms   1,428,937ms     --      --ms    --ms,--
rows
>
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/AIR_CUT-OFF_VALVE_SET_KAWASAK_P5285.cfm[Stack][KillS
> top]
>         72.30.103.147   @--ms   1,417,344ms     --      --ms    --ms,--
rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/VL800_W114.cfm[Stack][KillStop]
>         72.30.111.147   @--ms   1,383,391ms     --      --ms    --ms,--
rows
>
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/BRAKE_CALIPER_KIT_SUZUKI_ACS-_P6131C292.cfm[Stack][K
> illStop]
>         68.142.249.162  @--ms   1,366,469ms     --      --ms    --ms,--
rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/Dellorto_PHM_Carburetor_W19C2.cfm[Stack][KillStop]
>         68.159.143.14   @--ms   1,349,750ms     --      --ms    --ms,--
rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/sendlink.cfm?Product_ID=2180[Stack][KillStop]
>         72.30.133.215   @--ms   1,349,734ms     --      --ms    --ms,--
rows
>
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/MIKUNI_AIR_JET_B42_55_140_P2165C13.cfm[Stack][KillSt
> op]
>         72.30.110.93    @--ms   93,266ms        --      --ms    --ms,--
rows
> Recent Requests
> Request
> Completed       From    Response        TotalTime       #Queries
> QryTime Longest Query
> SQL
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/index.cfm
> -01:40.1        144.9.8.21      [EMAIL PROTECTED],906ms    10,922ms        --
--ms
> --ms,-- rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/Mikuni_Carburetors_C8.cfm
> -01:51.0        206.163.236.68  [EMAIL PROTECTED],000ms     4,000ms --      
> --ms
> --ms,-- rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/Mikuni_Carburetors_C8.cfm
> -01:55.0        206.163.236.68  [EMAIL PROTECTED],250ms     8,265ms --      
> --ms
> --ms,-- rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/index.cfm
> -02:03.3        144.9.8.21      [EMAIL PROTECTED],079ms    10,079ms        --
--ms
> --ms,-- rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/KEIHIN_MAIN_JET_99101-357_115_P5431C77.cfm
> -02:13.4        68.142.250.93   [EMAIL PROTECTED],765ms   114,765ms       --
--ms
> --ms,-- rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/sendlink.cfm?Product_ID=5449
> -04:08.2        72.30.216.30    [EMAIL PROTECTED],734ms     7,750ms --      
> --ms
> --ms,-- rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/sendlink.cfm?Product_ID=8844
> -04:16.0        72.30.102.76    [EMAIL PROTECTED],047ms     4,047ms --      
> --ms
> --ms,-- rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/index.cfm
> -04:20.0        206.163.236.68  [EMAIL PROTECTED],922ms    14,922ms        --
--ms
> --ms,-- rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/BRAKE_SHOES_HONDA_333_P6245C286.cfm
> -06:24.3        72.30.132.211   [EMAIL PROTECTED],281ms    31,297ms        --
--ms
> --ms,-- rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/product2.cfm?Product_ID=23
> -06:58.4        72.30.107.88    [EMAIL PROTECTED],719ms    41,735ms        --
--ms
> --ms,-- rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/sendlink.cfm?Product_ID=9039
> -07:47.3        72.30.111.87    [EMAIL PROTECTED],421ms     1,437ms --      
> --ms
> --ms,-- rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/Mikuni_C6.cfm
> -08:03.8        193.47.80.83    [EMAIL PROTECTED],061,735ms 1,061,750ms     --
--ms
> --ms,-- rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/manual_petcock_replacement_kit_W133.cfm
> -24:45.8        68.142.251.144  [EMAIL PROTECTED],812ms     6,766ms --      
> --ms
> --ms,-- rows
> Slow Requests
> Request
> Completed       From    Response        TotalTime       #Queries
> QryTime Longest Query
> SQL
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/index.cfm
> -01:40.1        144.9.8.21      [EMAIL PROTECTED],906ms    10,922ms        --
--ms
> --ms,-- rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/Mikuni_Carburetors_C8.cfm
> -01:55.1        206.163.236.68  [EMAIL PROTECTED],250ms     8,265ms --      
> --ms
> --ms,-- rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/index.cfm
> -02:03.4        144.9.8.21      [EMAIL PROTECTED],079ms    10,079ms        --
--ms
> --ms,-- rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/KEIHIN_MAIN_JET_99101-357_115_P5431C77.cfm
> -02:13.5        68.142.250.93   [EMAIL PROTECTED],765ms   114,765ms       --
--ms
> --ms,-- rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/index.cfm
> -04:20.1        206.163.236.68  [EMAIL PROTECTED],922ms    14,922ms        --
--ms
> --ms,-- rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/BRAKE_SHOES_HONDA_333_P6245C286.cfm
> -06:24.4        72.30.132.211   [EMAIL PROTECTED],281ms    31,297ms        --
--ms
> --ms,-- rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/product2.cfm?Product_ID=23
> -06:58.5        72.30.107.88    [EMAIL PROTECTED],719ms    41,735ms        --
--ms
> --ms,-- rows
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com/Mikuni_C6.cfm
> -08:03.8        193.47.80.83    [EMAIL PROTECTED],061,735ms 1,061,750ms     --
--ms
> --ms,-- rows
>         Help
> SeeFusion 3.3:           Server Status          Configuration
> Counters                Debug Output            Stack Trace
> SeeFusion Log
>
>
> SeeFusion 3.3 Copyright (c)2004-2006 Webapper Services, LLC Licensed to:
2hr
> Time-Limited evaluation version (2 servers)
>
> Robert P. Reil
> Managing Director,
> Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
> 4292 Country Garden Walk NW
> Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
> Office 770-974-8851
> Fax 770-974-8852
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 6:19 PM
> To: discussion@acfug.org
> Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
>
> Load in seefusion and see what's happening. www.seefusion.com
>
> Remember to wrap your database calls with seefusion so it can see the db
> calls.
>
> John
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:58 PM
> To: discussion@acfug.org
> Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
>
> JRUN hogging again. Cant get to any CF run pages.
> JRUN.exe is using almost 180,000k ram. Is this normal?
> Averaging 50~75% processor resources.
>
> Robert P. Reil
> Managing Director,
> Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
> 4292 Country Garden Walk NW
> Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
> Office 770-974-8851
> Fax 770-974-8852
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Reil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:48 PM
> To: discussion@acfug.org
> Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
>
> No virus. All legit processes.
>
> Robert P. Reil
> Managing Director,
> Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
> 4292 Country Garden Walk NW
> Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
> Office 770-974-8851
> Fax 770-974-8852
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Reil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:38 PM
> To: discussion@acfug.org
> Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
>
> It boots, and shuts down normally, a bit slow but noting offensive.
> Once it loads GUI, it takes about 2-3 mins to load a browser and resolve
the
> local home page. Then about 10 mins before the CF built page will load
> instead of erroring out on JRUN.
>
> No browser warnings in event viewer.
> Not multi homed.
>
> It does not load any network critical services.
> It does run Backup Exec, IIS, Terminal Services, Grisoft AV, MySQL, and
> MSSQL.
>
> I do notice that there are a couple questionable processes running and
will
> google them for potential viruses.
> DLLHOST.exe
> CTFMON.exe
> CSRSS.exe
> LLSSRV.exe
> LSASS.exe
> Pvlsvr.exe
> Swagent.exe
> Swsoc.exe
> Swstrtr.exe
> All other processes make sense to me.
>
> I terminaled in to check things out now that it is running and JRUN was
> 99-100% again for a duration then let go. Im logged in now running 50-98%
> idle.
> Hmmm I'm just now noticing that it is showing the 2 procs in the perf
window
> of the task manager where previously it only showed one...
>
> Will look at the logs after the AV file check.
>
> Robert P. Reil
> Managing Director,
> Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
> 4292 Country Garden Walk NW
> Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
> Office 770-974-8851
> Fax 770-974-8852
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM
> To: discussion@acfug.org
> Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
>
> Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a
> multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks?
>
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas
Knudsen
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM
> To: discussion@acfug.org
> Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
>
> yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot.  Robert, is it taking
> long to boot up or taking long to shutdown?  Note a reboot requires
> both of these actions.  I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown
> with your description of the CPU load.
>
> Could be many things.  Load, third-part connections such as databases,
> or just bad code can cause these things.  Check out the logs in the
> CFAdmin tool.  Look in the server one and look for entries with
> 'request timeout' mentioned.
>
> DK
>
> On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is your web server also a domain controller?
> >
> > John
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
> > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM
> > To: discussion@acfug.org
> > Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
> >
> > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and
> > MySQL with CF6
> >
> > Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots
to
> > get the CF site working.
> >
> > I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get
it
> > to host the site.
> >
> > Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site
would
> > return a JRUN timeout error.
> >
> > Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started
> properly.
> > The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on
> JRUN.exe
> > that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was
> > looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity
> > should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on
a
> > Browser F5 Refresh.
> >
> > You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing?
> >
> > Robert P. Reil
> > Managing Director,
> > Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
> > 4292 Country Garden Walk NW
> > Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
> > Office 770-974-8851
> > Fax 770-974-8852
> > www.motorcyclecarbs.com
> >
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