Now that is realistic useable wisdom. Thanks Let me chew on that and jiggle some CF developers ears.
I guess now would be a time for any experienced developers out there that could spend a little time on this project for a humbling hourly rate send me an email off list with your rate quote and a brief description of skill level. I put this on jobs too. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:37 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Table reconstruction. Able Commerce Robert if you have no other option you might consider hiring an experienced developer for 8-16 hours and have them come on site and help you do some of the coding and specification of the project. This will give you a great window in the project and possibly even allow you to accomplish a good amount of the work. If the work doesn't get done the day or two you would spend with an experienced developer working to solve a particular problem can be worth weeks of time in a classroom environment. And if it doesn't get done you would at least have a great idea of the scope and time requirements and skill level required to get the rest of it done. In your case and with a limited budget even if you never do more than the initial 8-16 hours of consultation I think it could help. This will also help you balance getting things done, done right, and done on time. I also like to tell people do you want it: done, done and done right, or done and done right and on time? Each one will cost you more ;-) (The triangle lets you explore the relationship a little better, but this one can have more impact in casual conversation). Jeremy > On July 11, 2006, Robert Reil wrote: > > > Guess Ill go for cheap and correct. Just keep doing the best I can till I > > get there... Fortunately I have time to make this happen. It's a thorn in > my > > side, but each simple feature makes my life easier. So once one thing > works > > I just add another and another till it starts working. When it works it > > works, and until it does not it does not. > > > > Fortunately only one thing affects the cart. And that will be some sort of > > autopopulate from the output of another table. Maybe a Stored Procedure, > or > > a CFML logic. Better yet a SP that is ran from a CFM page. > > The other part is just the csv importer that was given to me a couple > months > > ago. > > > > I just can not justify $7,000 for this tool. So if I have to get a > > certification and stumble my way through it then that's what it is. > > I appreciate DEEPLY all on list, and off list comments in this reguards. I > > had no idea that development was this expensive. > > > > Well the same enlightenment drove me to my MCSE, so I guess history > repeats > > itself! > > > > See you all in study group! :) > > > > Robert P. Reil > > Managing Director, > > Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. > > 4292 Country Garden Walk NW > > Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 > > Office 770-974-8851 > > Fax 770-974-8852 > > www.motorcyclecarbs.com > > > > On Jul 10, 2006, at 7:14 PM, Robert Reil wrote: > > > > > Dean: > > > > > > FWIW I feel that I have enough of a grasp and connections to modify > > > the DB > > > and normalize it without a problem. > > > > > > So really it will be a matter of making the app. > > > > > > A while ago someone (John, Charlie, and Howard know who) gave me a > > > link to a > > > Custom ??? that pulled in CSV's in CF and that will be a pivotal > > > tool to > > > work from. So its putting that CSV tool into CF code, and > > > outputting to the > > > tables I will have made. > > > > > > Maybe some SP's in the DB may be needed but the ideas for how it > > > will work > > > are slowly coming together. It's just a matter of reading, talking, > > > forming, > > > listing, writing, tweaking, looking etc till I get a grip on this. > > > And I am. > > > > > > Robert P. Reil > > > Managing Director, > > > Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. > > > 4292 Country Garden Walk NW > > > Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 > > > Office 770-974-8851 > > > Fax 770-974-8852 > > > www.motorcyclecarbs.com > > > On Jul 10, 2006, at 5:53 PM, Robert Reil wrote: > > > > > >> I figured that those would be the files. I just forgot how to find > > >> them. But I think I know what you are talking about. See Fusion > > >> should help me find those files. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> As to the 8$ an hour or so for coding this would be an offshore > > >> project. I have some developers and project manager connections to > > >> help me describe and plan this project. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> 7K$ for this modification? I can't even think about spending that > > >> kind of money right now. I don't know what that kind of money looks > > >> like yet, hence the reason why I have to learn CF. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Cust data privacy I won't give it to them. I can copy the DB and > > >> dump the content of that table. They only need access to product > > >> tables, and vendor spreadsheets. What can they do with that? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> As it is now I think that Im going to add separate tables and just > > >> have the Able Products prices populated from the other tables that > > >> Able is not aware of. This seems the easiest way to keep Able from > > >> writing on top of important info during an upgrade. I think I > > >> FINALLY (bet you all are glad to hear that!) on the right path. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Thanks all for the direction and as I said above I am getting > > >> control of what it is I really need and the ability to define it. > > >> Wow what a leaning curve this has been so far! > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Robert P. Reil > > >> > > >> Managing Director, > > >> > > >> Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. > > >> > > >> 4292 Country Garden Walk NW > > >> > > >> Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 > > >> > > >> Office 770-974-8851 > > >> > > >> Fax 770-974-8852 > > >> > > >> www.motorcyclecarbs.com > > >> > > >> From: Cody Wehunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 5:02 PM > > >> To: discussion@acfug.org > > >> Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Table reconstruction. Able Commerce > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Wow. Robert just in case you have not figured it out by now the > > >> pages that were causing the problems are most likely those that you > > >> posted on this list a week or so back. I can't remember them now , > > >> but they were posted here. That should help you if this is still > > >> an issue. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> As to the mention of several dollar an hour coders, you will get > > >> what you pay for there. And naturally you can offshore the > > >> development but you are not guaranteed a level of service or the > > >> privacy of your customer data etc. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> I think Several hundred thousand dollars seems a bit much for the > > >> project you are speaking of, however I do not think that several > > >> thousand dollars would be out of the question. You have a fairly > > >> complex set of requirements, and you do not or did not have a full > > >> set of requirements. You need to fully document the requirements > > >> and how you expect the new application to interact with > > >> ablecommerce and then decide how that interaction should be > > >> developed. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Once this is done it might point you or a developer in the right > > >> direction. I see too often where I work now, that certain groups > > >> attempt to build a boat only to find out they needed something that > > >> could fly. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Cody > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert > > >> Reil > > >> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 6:08 PM > > >> To: discussion@acfug.org > > >> Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Table reconstruction. Able Commerce > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> This is a new thread as a continuation from one a while back that > > >> is all revolving around the same issues I am having with trying to > > >> get the tables in Able Commerce moved around. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> http://forums.topsites.com/viewtopic.php?t=3623 > > >> > > >> will catch you up to speed. > > >> > > >> The topic changes on response 5 from JMESTEP and really does a good > > >> job of describing what is needed for me in the interest in getting > > >> this cart working like my business model requires. > > >> > > >> This is mostly an exercise in planning a modification, or a new app. > > >> > > >> Those that feel that they can help please read this thread and > > >> reply either to that thread or in here with your perspectives. > > >> > > >> I have reason to believe that custom code and an app external to > > >> Able Commerce could solve my problems. > > >> > > >> Please I beg for direction. > > >> > > >> Robert P. Reil > > >> Managing Director, > > >> Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. > > >> 4292 Country Garden Walk NW > > >> Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 > > >> Office 770-974-8851 > > >> Fax 770-974-8852 > > >> www.motorcyclecarbs.com ------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -------------------------------------------------------------
