Well, I don't use ColdBox myself, so I can't answer your question about whether CB expects one to use an ORM. Maybe someone else can chime here, or again the CB list/forum would be a great place to ask. I just wanted to clarify that one point about it not needing transfer or coldpsring to do development. I just had not heard that, in the mild exploration I've done of CB.
Good to hear of your enjoyment of CFWheels. I'll look forward to what you share about that transition. /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Clarke Bishop Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:15 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning a ColdFusion Framework: Update Thanks Charlie for the clarifications! I'm sure that I don't have the perspective to do a rigorous evaluation of ColdBox or any framework for that matter. I did see some samples that assumed Coldspring and Transfer. And, I don't understand how else you would manage dependencies and ORM within ColdBox. I know that technically, you don't need to use ORM/database as part of a framework, but all the apps I'm interested in would need that ability. So, if there's some built-in ORM in ColdBox, please let me know. To me, CFWheels just made more sense. It let me focus on learning MVC and it handles all the ORM & dependency stuff for me. And, I got a lot out of that Head First Rails book, too. There are a lot of Rails apps to use as examples, and I'm currently trying to port some over to CFML. I'm still very impressed with ColdBox. It seems very complete, and I think it's a lot more powerful than CFWheels and maybe any of the other frameworks, too. It's just that it seemed too much for where I am on my learning curve. If I decide to move on from CFWheels, ColdBox would by my first choice alternative! Clarke p.s. I haven't been blogging much on my Resultant website, but I have been blogging on other topics! The 2003 posts were originally articles on my old website. I've been interested in Rich Internet Apps and web technology for a long time. I originally wrote that web app article for some people at BellSouth. In the old days, my development team used CF 1.5 for a prototype back in 1996, and we used jrun for a while, too! ------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -------------------------------------------------------------
