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>> 8) Making market share the top priority: >> Might be true. I *do* have the feeling of a slight sellout happening >> (e.g. Firefox), which causes loss of the actual vision - and a drift >> away from the "good cause". >> > > Firefox is proprietary software. See: > http://directory.fsf.org/project/gnuzilla/ > *sigh* I know, I know... Mozilla's becoming similar to google: they're doing something good, but on the other hand they're pulling some strange stunts which makes me doubt to trust them (First it was the name, the logo and trademark problems, now it's non-free code in their binaries...) Unfortunately it became incredibly confusing to follow the different kinds of pure-GNU firefox browser forks. I've spent a whole evening doing some reading about their differences, motivations, etc... Seems like the info in my head is already outdated, because I've just encountered "IceCat", which I thought was supposed to be "IceWeasel". Now it's getting so damn confusing, that if you try to explain this to a regular user, they'll just roll their eyes, sigh, shake their head and walk away. Why is this necessary [1]: "The gNewSense BurningDog browser and the Debian IceWeasel browser are similarly derived from Firefox, also with the intent of being free software. Technically, however, these projects are maintained entirely independently of IceCat. (Previously, this GNU browser project was also named IceWeasel, but that proved confusing." What's really confusing is that I have 3 free browsers now! Why the fork? ...again? HOWEVER: What should one do now? Let's imagine a conversation where I encounter people, tell them about free software and it goes like this: (A... someone, B... me) A: "Sounds great! Where can I get started?" I should now answer: B: "Hm... use a free browser. Get IceCat!" A: "Cool. never heard of it. I'm using Firefox" B: "it's not free software... please use IceCat" A: "ok. where can I get it?" B: "apt-get install icecat" A: "How do I do that with Windows?" B: "Oh. sorry. you can't use any free software with windows. You will never be able to gradually migrate to freedom. good bye." I want things to be good. So I want things to be free (as in GPL). ...but I also don't want to end up grumpy and alone, completely incompatible with the rest of the world. This is why I want the rest of the world to understand why FS is the best. What are your opinions regarding the Firefox/icecat issue here, when it comes to "spreading the word"? Pb [1] http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBSQHCqYoz7fiqfir6AQI9iwP/eQ3FTYFu8LVsm0HyG11LY7riFZVh28zD 5yK/0JWINFV+YCTnqB6rEBgiSEpv1BhSCM1ZW8ZySNKu1QQ5RHdDX2AGQHSLTtdI FD4Sc26vVHdYg/peKJfZFBAiL1Sq42OFGEYT38bKiHdDmLiSqphXeH9Vh7q27eeP 7/SYUrgYyQo= =0zI7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Discussion mailing list Discussion@fsfeurope.org https://mail.fsfeurope.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion
