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On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 02:02:35PM +0100, Paul Boddie wrote:
> On Thursday 3. December 2015 02.46.03 Werner Almesberger wrote:
> > 
> > Well, the cool new thing seem to be those two-factor "soft tokens"
> > running on smartphones. What could possibly go wrong ? :-)
> 
> It's certainly worth considering what these solutions actually offer. My 
> impression is that the phones have some kind of hardware unit for storing 
> keys 
> in a similar manner to smartcards [1] - it could well be the SIM that 
> provides 
> this, given the relationship between SIM and smartcard technologies - and 
> that 
> phones use this mechanism to issue tokens [2].

Even if it looks great on paper, there is always the issue that phones are
among the biggest targets of the NSA, as far as I know.  They're almost
certainly filled with backdoors.  I would expect the same to happen to any
significant crypto device that gets sold in the USA, though.

Thanks,
Bas
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