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Subject: Re: [proletar] Islam itu bajingan
> Kalau menurut kisah kisah yang dikemukakan Bung JD , kayanya "Islam" ini ;
> atau bukan kauanya lagi tapi "Islam ini selalu menggambarkan kebiadaban" ;
> masih ada lagi atau ada berapa tribu lagi contoh semacam itu ? Yang
> menggambarkan Islam itu sangat biadab ; tidak ada peri kemanusiaan ? Dan
> ceriterakan lagi tentang kebaikan bangsa atau Agama Yahudi ; Hindu ; Budha
> Kristian dll. Barangkali kalau sudah ribuan begitu ummat Islam agak engeh
> sedikit .
Ajaran Islam memang biadab!
Tindak tanduk Nabi Muhamamd di Madinah memang biadab!
Ajaran Nasrani juga DULUNYA biadab.
Sangat biadab.
Tapi orang-orang Nasrani telah berusaha dan berhasil menjadikan
ajaran agama itu TIDAK LAGI sebiadab dulu.
Ini yang tidak disadari oleh kebanyakan orang-orang Islam.
Yang biadab di ajaran katolik itu cuma sikap Vatikan yang masih
memushi homoseksualitas, yang masih belum mau menerima kondom
untuk menghindarkan penyakit kelamin.
Yang masih biadab di dunia Nasrani itu terutama (persisnya
hanya) teroris fundementalis yang menembaki klikik aborsi di
Amerik atau di Kanada.
Orang Islam belum banyak yang berusaha untuk menghilangkan
bahagian ajaran agamanya yang biadab.
Dan ajaran biadab itu masih tetap berlaku.
Orang Islam - seperti anda - masih sibuk mencari-cari kesalahan
omongan orang seperti JD yang pada hal hanya berusaha untuk
menunjukkan - dengan bukti - kepada orang Islam bahwa ada yang
biadab dalam ajaran agamanya.
Anda mestinya berterima kasih kepada orang-orang seperti JD ini
dan bukannya berusaha untuk mencari-cari kesalahannya.
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> aa78282
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, July 13, 2000 09:10 AM
> Subject: [proletar] Islam itu bajingan
>
>
> >Ini cerita dari India. Biasa, korban virus Arab ngebom gereja dan di
> >rumah si bajingan itu (Ibrahim) ditemukan pamflet tipikal Islam
> >bajingan (mau gimana lagi?) yang bernada memusuhi Kristen, Hindu dan
> >semua orang. Sementara dua temannya lagi, Zakeer dan Abdul, mampus di
> >tempat habis ngebom gereja itu. Tapi saat ini mungkin Zakeer dan
> >Abdul lagi kendurian di surga, atau malah sudah ngencuk ria sama peri-
> >peri cantik sambil diintip-intip oleh si Muhammad KBI (kepala
> >bajingan Islam). Atau mungkin sudah mabuk minum khamar.
> >
> >Yang pasti, lagi-lagi terbukti, Islam memang cuman bisa mengajarkan
> >premanisme dan membuat umatnya yang setia jadi bajingan.
> >
> >
> >JD
> >
> >
> >--==--==--==--==--
> >Being monotheist they will go off on the usual paranoid tangent and
> >blame it all on Hindu 'fundamentalists' . So let Xtian police and army
> >officers and Fernandes question this man and get at the truth - that
> >he is an ISI man and Pakistan wants all non Muslims to leave the
> >Indian subcontinent ..
> >Top Stories
> >
> >Church blast suspect arrested
> >Bangalore, July 12 (PTI): In a significant breakthrough, police today
> >arrested a man in connection with the bomb blast which had rocked the
> >St Peter and Paul Church here on Sunday.
> >
> >S M Ibrahim, one of the occupants of the van which exploded in flames
> >an hour before the blast in the church, was arrested in the hospital
> >where he is undergoing treatment, Karnataka Home Minister Mallikarjun
> >Kharge told reporters.
> >
> >Two others, Zakeer and Abdul Rehman Sidiqui who were in the car along
> >with Ibrahim, who was driving the van, had died in the blast.
> >
> >Kharge said the house of Ibrahim, an accountant with a private firm,
> >here was searched by police, who found a pamphlet warning Christian
> >missionaries to stop conversions or ``quit India'', stored in his
> >computer.
> >
> >The computer was opened with a secret code and the material stored in
> >it taken out. Certain books and pamphlets were recovered from his
> >house which showed that Ibrahim was a member of an organisation named
> >`Deendaar Channabasaveshwara Sidiqque sect,' Kharge said. The
> >credentials or antecedents of the organisation were not known, Kharge
> >said.
> >Muslim arrested for south Indian church bombing
> >BANGALORE, India, July 12 (AFP) -
> >Indian police Wednesday arrested a Muslim man for a church bombing in
> >the southern city of Bangalore, the latest in a spate of
> >anti-Christian attacks across the country.
> >
> >Mallikarjun Kharge, home minister of the southern state of Karnataka,
> >of which Bangalore is capital, said Ibrahim (Eds: one name) had been
> >arrested in connnection with Sunday's blast.
> >
> >Sunday's explosion at the Church of Saint Peter and Paul in Bangalore
> >was the second such incident in as many days in Karnataka state.
> >
> >About 30 minutes before the bombing, two people died and one was
> >seriously injured in a car explosion about two kilometres from the
> >church.
> >
> >Police said the survivor, Ibrahim, and his two Muslim associates were
> >running away after planting the bomb in the church when some gelatine
> >sticks inside the vehicle exploded accidentally.
> >
> >Kharge said Ibrahim was arrested from hospital and added that he
> >belonged to a shadowy sect.
> >
> >"It is too early to link the sect to any international or national
> >organisation," the minister said, referring to some claims that the
> >bombing was masterminded by Pakistani intelligence.
> >
> >A 500,000 rupee (11,500 dollar) reward has also been offered for any
> >information leading to the arrest of the culprits behind the attack.
> >
> >On Saturday, a bomb exploded outside the main entrance of a church in
> >the town of Hubli, some 400 kilometres (250 miles) northwest of the
> >Karnataka state capital Bangalore.
> >
> >Again, nobody was killed or injured in the bombing, which followed a
> >series of anti-Christian attacks in southern India.
> >
> >Last month witnessed bomb blasts at four churches in Karnataka and the
> >neighbouring states of Andhra Pradesh and Goa.
> >
> >Christians say attacks on churches, hospices, missionary-run schools
> >and facilities have increased since Prime Minister Atal Behari
> >Vajpayee's BJP party took power after general elections in late 1998.
> >
> >Radical Hindu groups accuse Christian missionaries of forcibly
> >converting poor Hindus in rural areas -- a charge Church leaders
> >strongly deny.
> >
> >Christians make up a little more than two percent of India's one
> >billion predominantly Hindu population.
> >ISI involved in a series of blasts in South India
> >By R. Balaji
> >Hyderabad, July 11
> >
> >
> >The involvement of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence in the bomb
> >blasts at places of worship across South India has been established
> >with the detention of half-a-dozen suspects by the Karnataka police
> >over two days, the police sources said.
> >
> >
> >The Andhra police has rushed a special team, comprising senior
> >superintendent of police (intelligence) M.V. Dinakar Prasad and an
> >expert in forensics from the State Forensic Laboratory, to Bangalore
> >for further investigations.
> >
> >
> >Official sources said that the Intelligence Bureau had alerted the
> >Andhra government on Monday morning about the involvement of an ISI
> >gang in the blasts here, following investigations into the death of
> >two Muslim youth and injuries to another in a mysterious bomb
> >explosion late on Sunday night at Bangalore.
> >
> >
> >Director-general of police H.J. Dora said preliminary investigations
> >had revealed that one of the dead persons hailed from Hyderabad's
> >Asifnagar area while the injured person was from Vijayawada.
> >
> >
> >The breakthrough came under fortuitous circumstances for the police in
> >Bangalore on Sunday. An explosion occurred in a Maruti van in the
> >Binny Mills area of Bangalore, a predominantly minority community.
> >Three youth, Rehman Siddique, Mohd Zakir and Ibrahim, were sitting in
> >the van at that time.
> >
> >
> >Siddique and Zakir were killed in the blast and Ibrahim sustained
> >grievous injuries. Ibrahim is now under medical treatment at a private
> >hospital in Bangalore. An hour later, there was a minor blast at the
> >St. Peter and Paul Church in the Jagjeevanram Nagar of Bangalore. The
> >area is a small distance away from Binny Mills area.
> >
> >
> >The Bangalore police recovered several papers from the mangled remains
> >of the van, which reportedly identified various churches to be
> >targeted. According to sources, the papers were written in Urdu and
> >broken English, police sources said. Remnants of explosives found in
> >the wreckage and at the site of the explosions at churches in
> >Bangalore on Sunday, Hubli on Saturday and Wadi on June 16 were found
> >to be similar.
> >
> >
> >The police also found a match with remnants of explosives seized by
> >the Andhra Pradesh police from the blast sites at various churches.
> >For further examination, the Dinakar Prasad team has been to
> >Bangalore, the police said. Senior police officials in private
> >conversation admitted that the evidence they had gathered sufficiently
> >indicated the involvement of the ISI in the blasts.
> >
> >
> >But the director-general of police said though available evidence
> >suggested the involvement of Islamic fundamentalists in the blasts,
> >"it was too early to establish the involvement of the ISI." According
> >to Dora, Zakir, one of the deceased, hailed from the Asifnagar area in
> >the city, while Ibrahim, who escaped with injuries, belonged to
> >Vijayawada. Siddique who also perished in the blast, belonged to
> >Bangalore.
> >
> >
> >According to sources, the trio belonged to the Deen Dayar sect, who
> >are fiercely fundamentalist. They were both anti-Christian and
> >anti-Hindu. Zakir in particular was a year back arrested by the
> >Maharashtra police for desecrating the statue of Dr B.R.
> >
> >Ambedkar in Mumbai. He was subsequently released on bail.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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