On Wednesday 16 April 2008 17:01:18 Andy Green wrote: > Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> | - qemu breaks when upgrading your kernel, glibc :) > > The > > # yum update > > (or equivalent in $DISTRO) that updated the kernel or glibc will pull in > an updated qemu and so there is no breakage. Hehe, unless you get Ubuntu from Canonical and a fixed/changed qemu from Nokia. This is also why I know it is near impossible to rebuild the qemu/scratchbox stuff, I tried, and I know how to compile stuff. :) > > | - qemu can not emulate the same CPU/InstructionSet as your target due > | legal 'issues' (IPR) > | - IIRC debian disabled buildd's due issues with qemu (more than the > | philosophy) > > I googled around about these, I didn't see about it on the Wikipedia > entry or another link about ARM-specific QEMU from there. I mostly watched this on planet.debian.org back then. I think this blog http://blog.aurel32.net/?p=33 kicked it of. And even there he is talking about strange failures. Uploads by his buildd were disabled shortly afterwards. :) > > Anyway, nobody from Intel said they will do it by Qemu AFAIK. Since > they don't do cross for their existing supported Intel platform, I guess > they might try to sidestep it and imagine them saying "compile in Qemu" > -- it can be wildly impractical and they port it as cross. hehe maybe > Intel decide to port it to ARM using OE, lol. > > The question is more, stick with OE or move to a traditional distro. Yes, I have been looking at emdebian the last eight years(?) and I agree that our devices get more storage and power that his question has to be evaluated over and over again. Personally I think distro's are not there yet. One still need machine dependant packages, you still want to rebuild your distribution with other compiler flags easily. > > |> What I want to do is link against official tslib. Can I download a > |> tslib-devel package for that like I can in Fedora or Ubuntu? I don't > |> think so. > |> > |> What about -devel packages so I can build against official tslib? I can > |> do this on a normal distro and we wouldn't need to suffer my ravings and > |> horrified groans. > | > | Sure, > | > | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=libts-dev > | > | (and the content even looks sane, I'm sure there are broken packages > > too, but > > | they will be less) > | > | so it is a matter of someone providing these packages for the Openmoko > | OpenEmbedded based distribution? > > So what is the process to install this -dev on my Fedora host and build > against it, assuming I have John Lee's canned compilers, which I do? Today is the first time I have heard about John's stuff. I see how this is a bit under developed. It looks like you need to get opkg/ipkg or dpkg. a) We have a feed with Openmoko packages, including the dev ones (if not this is something I could take care of): opkg-cl -conf my-opkg-config update opkg-cl -conf my-opkg-config -destroot my/dest/root install libts-dev b) get the Angstrom libts1 and the libts-dev (using the package browser I showed you with the above link) opkg-cl -conf my-opkg-config -force-depends -destroot my/dest install libts...ipk opkg-cl -conf my-opkg-config -force-depends -destroot my/dest install libts-dev...ipk I think I will take care of a) if no one else is stepping up. z.
