Phillip J. Eby wrote: > At 09:03 PM 12/7/2006 +0200, Ilias Lazaridis wrote: >> This is a special and limited use-case: >> >> The eggs do *not* need to be found by other eggs/applications, as they >> are used only by the application that loads them in. > > That's 100% irrelevant.
ok > There are a whole bunch of different ways for you > to install them [...] I understand. Flexibility is very nice. But simplicity, too. My requirement is to have no additional installation steps after an svn-checkout (or unzip). >> Thus I just want to create the egg representation in my code (to call >> the entry_points), whilst using the information from setup.py/sources >> (instead of the generated egg_info). > > I still don't get why you can't run "develop", "egg_info", or build .egg > files. If the answer is simply that you don't want to, I'd suggest getting > over it. :) If there's some other reason, you haven't shared it with me yet. The reason is "reduncancy", which I like to avoid. For simple plugins, the information is already given within "setup.py", thus duplicating it into an egg-info is "duplicating information". > I suspect, however, that the actual problem is that you're not aware of one > or more of the several other ways to implement plugins... that all actually > work. :) Trac uses setuptools as it's plugin mechanism, thus I have to deal with eggs in my use case. Most (if not all) of those plugins just use the basic constructs of setuptools. In my use-case, a loader retrieves all 2nd-level directories from within a folder and loads the eggs: http://dev.lazaridis.com/base/browser/infra/tracx/loader-draft-test.py?rev=171 I had initially placed the egg-info-generation within this code, but this leads to problems with permissions etc. - and: it's redundant. - As said, as a user I am very happy with setuptools. As a developer, I would like to have more simplicity for simple use cases. I think removing the need for an egg-info would be the first step. - How does this read: Setuptools allows you to use simple python packages as eggs, without the need to generate an egg-info. This is especially usefull in development environments or in environments with a high amount of plugins. The information needed will be retrieved from within the setup.py file. If a feature requires generation of the egg-info, you'll recieve either an warning, and error or the egg-info will be generated automaticly (depending on configuration). This way, any folder which contains an setup.py file containing the configuration can serve as an "raw egg". . -- http://lazaridis.com _______________________________________________ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig