On Dec 23, 2007, at 10:27 PM, Matt Good wrote:

> Sigh.  From what I read of their complaints they could have all been
> fixed with a 2-line diff to remove ez_setup from setup.py.
...
> If you care about Django setuptools support you should
> follow up to make sure they realize that they can use setuptools
> without requiring an internet connection.

For what it is worth the allmydata.org tahoe project also requires to  
be able to install without requiring an internet connection (we call  
this "The Desert Island Scenario").

This feature was recently broken in tahoe, and with PJE's help I  
recently fixed it [1].  Other people are, of course, welcome to copy  
our technique, in which we bundle the setuptools egg itself with our  
own package.

By the way, we actually do this with other 3rd-party libraries upon  
which we depend, too, which results in a large downloadable (on the  
order of 5 MB), and which is currently somewhat controversial on our  
mailing list [2].

Regards,

Zooko

[1] http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe/ticket/229
[2] http://allmydata.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2007-December/000290.html
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