zooko wrote: > On Sep 24, 2008, at 0:27 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > > > How about this: > > http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/EggFormats
I guess we don't have the same meaning when speaking about specification. A reference which states at the beginning "Note, however, that these are all internal implementation details and are therefore subject to change; stick to the published API if you don't want to be responsible for keeping your code from breaking when setuptools changes. You have been warned." Is not a specification in my mind. This is pervasive in the distutils/setuptools world BTW: everything is defined by implementation, you don't know what is implementation detail and what is the API (My first contact with distutils was to plug a scons command to use scons within distutils for the numpy project, and I was horrified by the code of distutils. The only way to understand what's going on is to run it; I can't say setuptools is much better in that departement, but since a setuptools requirement was to extend distutils, I don't blame setuptools for this) > I agree that this is a problem. People interested in improving it > should read Philip J. Eby's post "setuptools: past, present, future" > from 2006: > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2006-April/064145.html > > Since then we've made a great step forward by having the distutils in > Python 2.5 and newer automatically produce .egg-info files. > > Then, we made another step forward when we persuaded Linux > distributions like Debian and Red Hat to stop deleting those .egg-info > files. ;-) I hope that with the fork, we will be able to deal better with the situation. To me, the biggest problem of setuptools is that it is a big mud of code, with things which are vastly different in purpose. There should be a submodule for building eggs, a submodule to deal with dependencies, a submodule for the distutils extensions, etc... I want to be able to import setuptools "build an egg" module without using setuptools at all otherwise, so that I can build an egg in e.g. scons. I want to be able to use setuptools capabilities for dependencies to get a list of all the dependencies without using setuptools at all otherwise. cheers, David _______________________________________________ Distutils-SIG maillist - [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
