Paul Moore wrote:
2009/5/9 Chris Withers <ch...@simplistix.co.uk>:
+1.
<flame>Anyone who's arguing against this is either not deploying stuff in a
repeatable fashion, and so isn't serious in my books, or is so serious that
they're cutting vm images to roll out and so dump everything for the app in
site packages</flame>
Hmm. I'll accept the flame to the extent that I don't deploy stuff to
a wide enough audience to be qualified to comment on that side of
things. But:
1. Can you clarify what "this" is?
Given that I'm writing this offline on a train, the answer is "no", I'm
afraid ;-)
Part of the issue I see is that
there's never a clear enough statement of a proposal for a non-expert
in the field to follow.
Which proposal do you think isn't clear enough?
2. Distutils is for distributing python modules/packages, so
*application* deployment is out of scope.
Python applications rely on packages and modules. Application in the
scope I'm using it might mean something like "YouTube".
Script support is for
small-scale stuff (in my view).
Wrong. I use it for creating start/stop scripts for services along with
scripts to stick in crontabs. I don't need to bother with that for
small-scales stuff.
3. Accepting that I don't know what you mean by "this", can I point
out that as a user, I personally have problems with a significant
proportion of scripts distributed with packages - so are you saying
that those packages "aren't serious",
Probably, or certainly that their authors don't really care about the
scripts they generate...
or that there is no way of doing
what they (and I) want at present?
I'm afraid I don't remember/understand what you want...
I'll see if I can find some in due course. (Basically, the types of
things I see are scripts distributed on Windows with no filetype
extension, .bat wrappers for command line scripts which don't work
right when called from another bat file, setuptools-built exe wrappers
which result in version-specific binaries for pure-python code, to
give some examples).
The last is the "right" thing. These scripts work cross-platform and are
tied to the correct version of python for the setup as "originally
intended", ie: the version the package was installed with.
cheers,
Chris
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