On 12:09 am, sstein...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sep 15, 2009, at 7:52 PM, David Lyon wrote:
And imo the discussion has gone way off track..

The use case isn't abstract. All this discussion is about trying
to rewrite two lines of code.

-- setup.py --
"""
   if sys.platform == 'win32':
       setup.dependencies.add('win32com','162')

   setup()

"""

That would be the simplest way to do it in code.

It appears as if "if sys.platform == 'win32':"
is an evil line of code - that certain people
want to go to great lengths to stomp out.

It's one line of code for crying out loud...

We don't need a mini-language just because we
don't like writing it the shortest way...

talk about platform bias gone utterly crazy...

Assuming that it really is that simple...

+1 on everything above.

A 1 line change is much better than a 30 message debate, BNF diagram, and DSL for a simple case. If it doesn't work out for some reason, some _real_ reason, debate it then in context, if it ever comes up again.

I don't think it's really this simple. The point is to have static definition of the package information. Having a Python program define this information at runtime does not satisfy this requirement. You can say that the simple sys.platform test is not evil, but how does that lead to a solution allowing PyPI to tell users what the dependencies for a package are on their platform?

Still, it may be that if the only use case here is conditionally declaring a dependency if the install target is Windows, a simpler solution might suffice. I won't try to describe such a solution. Instead, I'll ask if that premise seems valid.

What use cases do we have? There's the one described above, which lots of people have been talking about. I think there's another one related to target Python version - eg, on Python 2.3, depend on simplejson, but on Python 2.6, don't. What else?

Jean-Paul
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