On Oct 28, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Jim Fulton wrote:

>BTW, I really don't care about certain types of innovation (e.g. file
>locations, wide unicode) as long as I as a developer don't feel them.
>It occurs to me that it would be useful if there was a definition of a
>standard Python that provided a baseline that developers could count
>on. Today, the closest thing to a standard is the Python distribution.
>I suppose that doesn't have to be the standard.  Of course, defining
>such a standard might be really painful, especially via email. It might
>be a good PyCon discussion/sprint topic.

We should do this.  The "System Python" has too many competing OS-specific
constraints that pretty much ensure it will always be idiosyncratic.  FWIW, in
Debian/Ubuntu, we're at least trying to *document* some of those issues:

    http://wiki.debian.org/Python

I'm supportive of an effort to define "Clean Python" as a separate "thing"
that you can install in parallel and use as a better base for your third party
application deployment.  To be most useful, I think this should be as similar
and predictable as possible across distributions.  Of course, it gets harder
still when you want to extend that to cross-OS/platform.

But maybe there's still something we can do here.  We should put this on the
agenda for Pycon.  Would the language summit be an appropriate forum (at least
as a start)?

-Barry

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