On Mar 9, 2011, at 7:06 AM, Jim Fulton <j...@zope.com> wrote:

> They certainly aren't "projects" in any sense that most people would
> understand.  They are arguably products of projects. Of course, the
> term "product" has negative connotations for some folks.

Not for everybody!  As far as I am concerned, the whole Python packaging 
ecosystem (not to mention every Twisted-based plugin mechanism and extension 
point) is merely trying to re-ascend to the lofty heights once occupied by the 
beautiful completeness and usability of the zope2 "product" architecture :).  
(Not kidding!  I loved those things.)
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