On 29/11/2012 23:00, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote:

But while I know the problem you mentioned has come up on the SciPy
list, it really is a trifle in this context. Having to remember to
install NumPy before SciPy is not what people have issues with.

The pain points SciPy deals with are just from a different world. I
think the most common problems are of the sort a) linking with the right
LAPACK in the right way, b) using Fortran compilers with distutils and
in particular combining various Fortran compilers with various C runtime
libraries on Windows.

Going beyond SciPy and just to provide another example, a non-trivial
number of scientific projects use Fortran and Cython and NumPy together;
that's basically unachievable with either distutils or numpy.distutils
or Cython.Distutils (so one uses an actual build tool such as CMake or
scons of waf instead; distutils doesn't really qualify (or was meant to
be) a build tool after all).

I wonder if this is where the wheel format fits in? If I understand, it lets you use build tools to do the build, and then wheel is just the distribution format.

Perhaps Daniel can chime in on this?

Chris

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