On May 11, 2014, at 3:58 AM, Paul Moore <p.f.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11 May 2014 08:38, Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This confusion can likely be resolved by giving the obvious "allow external"
>> name to the behaviour most users will want, and a more obscure name like
>> "allow verifiable external" to the specialised behaviour folks like Stefan &
>> MAL rely on.
> 
> I'm struggling to reconcile Donald's assertion (based, I believe, on
> his data from PyPI) that there are only 25 or so packages on PyPI that
> are external but safe, and he's hot familiar with any of them, against
> the comment that Stefan and MAL are affected by this change.
> 
> https://pypi.python.org/simple/cdecimal/ has no links - maybe because
> Stefan withdrew them at the start of this debate.

cdecimal used to but Stefan removed them and then posted his message
to python-dev.

> https://pypi.python.org/simple/egenix-mx-base/ has verifiable external
> links. I'm pretty surprised that Donald hasn't heard of mx-base.

egenix-mx-base does not have verifiable external links.Verifiable external
links must be both directly linked to from the /simple/ index page and
must include a hash. egenix-mx-base does not do this.

> 
> Donald, maybe you could post the names of those 25 or so packages?

I’d have to recompile the list since I (stupidly) didn’t keep it around.

> 
> Download counts as a gross measure of popularity would be useful here,
> but AIUI the current counts are unreliable. Is there any work going on
> to get better download counts? That would really help in exercises
> like this.

Here’s the thing, we can’t use download counts here because we don’t
host those files.

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