> > On Oct 23, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Matthias Klose <d...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > > Am 23.10.2014 um 22:38 schrieb Donald Stufft: >> >>> On Oct 23, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Michael Merickel <m...@m.merickel.org> wrote: >>> >>> I'm noticing a trend that depending on setuptools is discouraged[1] in >>> the install_requires of your setup.py. However, some packages like >>> pyramid have core features that depend on pkg_resources (which is part >>> of setuptools). Thus, we depend on it. As I've monitored distutils-sig >>> I haven't seen any talk of separating these packages. To me, requiring >>> the use of pkg_resources is a very valid use-case for depending on >>> setuptools as it provides many improvements over the basic >>> `pkgutil.get_data` API. >>> >>> Since I'm not aware of a workaround for this problem, and I'm seeing >>> setuptools be categorically discouraged, perhaps I am just unaware and >>> need to be enlightened? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> [1] https://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2014-October/025131.html >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig >> >> To be specific that post was talking about using the idiom that will >> automatically bootstrap setuptools when you run setup.py:: >> >> from distribute_setup import use_setuptools >> use_setuptools(version="0.6.49”) >> >> Projects *should* depend on setuptools in install_requires if their >> project itself uses something inside of setuptools as a runtime >> dependency (e.g. not in setup.py). > > I don't know about many packages needing setuptools as a runtime dependency. > Most packages need a dependency on pkg_resources only. So adding a > pkg-resources > egg would be nice.
As oh right now pkg_resources is part of setuptools, it’s only the downstream folks who split them apart. There are some decisions to make regarding splitting them out that I don’t know how setuptools wants to handle it. However once the stuff that pkg_resources provides is standardized it will be available as part of https://warehouse.python.org/project/packaging/ so projects wishing to use the standards based functionality (most of which is heavily inspired if not outright “stolen” from setuptools/pkg_resources) will be able to use that eventually. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA _______________________________________________ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
