On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Donald Stufft <don...@stufft.io> wrote:
> On October 6, 2015 at 3:21:04 AM, Glyph Lefkowitz (gl...@twistedmatrix.com) > wrote: > > > Inside the package. > > > > If you put your tests outside your package, then you can't install > > the tests for two packages simultaneously, because everyone's > > tests are just in the top-level package "tests". This tends to > > infest the whole package, since then tests import things from > > each other using 'from tests import ...'. This is recommended > > by the hitchhiker's guide, and seconded by . > > I dislike putting tests inside the package. > > The supposed benefit is that anyone can run the tests at anytime, but I > don't > find that actually true because it means (as someone else pointed out) > that you > either have to depend on all your test dependencies or that there is > already an > additional step to install them. If you're going to have to locate and > install > the test dependencies, then you might as well fetch the tarball with tests > as > well. > > Someone suggested setuptools test_requires, but that only functions when > you > have a setup.py available and you execute ``setup.py test``. It does not > help > you at all once the package is installed and the sdist is gone. > > I also don't think people actually run the tests when they are installed > in any > significant number, at least I've never once in my life done it or even > had a > desire to do it. > The significant number is not so relevant if you buy the argument that it is useful to downstream packagers: it may be a few users, but those are crucial. I also forgot to mention that the ability to test something without building is crucial when you want to distribute binaries. David > Some projects have test suites which are significantly large too. The PyCA > cryptography project for instance, has to ship it's vectors as an > additional > package to reduce the size of the final build product. > > ----------------- > Donald Stufft > PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 > DCFA > > > _______________________________________________ > Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig >
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